Massive engine oil leakage?

1991 HONDA ACCORD
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JERBES
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1991 Honda Accord. We have a MASSIVE oil leak at the front end of the crankshaft that started a couple of days ago. About 4 seconds after starting the engine a stream of oil an 1/8 inch thick comes out of what looks to be a small vent just above the oil pan under the front of the crank at a rate of about a 1/3 cup a minute. Is this a totally failed crank front oil seal or something else?
Dec 12, 2009 at 2:51 PM
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Hi jerbes

Could be the front crankshaft seal or an oil pump housing seal/gasket-inspect This guide will help us find it

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-is-leaking-oil

Please run down this guide and report back.
Dec 12, 2009 at 9:58 PM
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It is hard to believe that even a totally missing crank oil seal would leak that much oil. It's not drip drip drip but a steady stream of oil coming out of the vent at the bottom of lower timing belt cover at idle. Where is the oil pump on this engine and would a leaking oil pump housing gasket leak into the space between the engine block and the timing belt cover?
Dec 12, 2009 at 10:15 PM
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The oil pump is in front of the engine block and its behind the front cover of the engine where the crankshaft meets the crankshaft pulley thru the cover.
Dec 12, 2009 at 10:46 PM
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Well, we got around to fixing it now that the weather is tolerable. It wasn't the front crankshaft seal and it wasn't the oil pump housing seal gasket either, so both your guesses were wrong.
It was the seal on front counterbalance shaft that caused the massive leaking. The seal had popped out from the oil pressure behind it and was riding on the shaft. There was no seal retaining fork installed, which I now understand was a recall on later model Accords. We replaced the front counterbalance shaft seal along with a seal retainer fork, the crankshaft seal, the timing belt, the countershaft belt and put in a new water pump just in case.
Jun 15, 2010 at 12:58 PM
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i have a 1991 honda accord 2.2 liter sohc it has 265,889 miles i have a real bad oil leak in the front of the engine it poors out
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[quote:9e0a916740="lynch187"]Engine Mechanical problem
1991 Honda Accord 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive Manual 265889 miles
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i have a 1991 honda accord 2.2 liter sohc it has 265,889 miles i have a real bad oil leak in the front of the engine it poors out[/quote:9e0a916740]

does it look like it is coming from behind the bottom pulley? if so it is the front engine seal and or the oil pan gasket
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:54 AM (Merged)
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I have a 1991 Honda Accord that is leaking a little bit of oil after starting. Then it will overheat after driving for a while? What could the malfunction be?
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:54 AM (Merged)
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Oil leaks are mostly due to bad seals or gaskets.

Overheating is due to lack of coolant in system. Have you checked the coolant level in radiator?
Are the cooling fans working?
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:54 AM (Merged)
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I was looking at the car today, Coolant is fine! I noticed that one fan would kick in but the other did not even after I cut off the engine. However, the oil leak is large enough that it leaves puddles on the ground. Black puddles of oil, but my oil levels stay the same. I really don't know what the oil is leaking from...but the fan might be the problem with the overheating! I also heard that a cracked engine block could be my problem, is that true?
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If coolant level is good, it has nothing to do with engine problems. Most probably the fan not working or a stuck thermostat would cause overheating. Both fans should work simultaneously and the one not working is most likely due to a bad fan motor.

Black colored oil should be from the engine. I would suggest checking for leaks and best way is to jack up vehicle and get under it to have a visual inspection. Monitor the oil level, it might not drop too fast though you might notice leaks.

Aug 25, 2020 at 11:54 AM (Merged)
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my car is leaking major oil only when its in drive its coming from the driver side where the belts are at. Its going through oil to where if you drive it its already empty by the time you go around the block. I check the timing seal and thats fine where else would i need to look. Will this be a lot of work and how much are usually the repairs on these vehicles.
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Hi alaskajimd,

At the front of the engine, there are :
1. Camshaft oil seal.
2. Crankshaft oil seal
3. Front balancer oil seal.
4. Rear balancer oil seal and O ring.
5. Valve cover gasket.

Any of the above can cause the leaking and the most likely condition is that one of the seals has popped itself from its seat.

You would need to remove the timing belt cover to check the source and the job would depend on what needs to be replaced. With so much oil being dispensed, I believe the timng belt and related parts needs to be replaced as well.

Wihout understanding the extend of the damage, it would not be possible to provide any estimated repairs and prices ranges region to region so it is bets to get some local quotes.
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:54 AM (Merged)
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I took the car in for an oil change and was told there was a leak. To find it the engine would have to be cleaned. Every since the oil change there is smoke coming from the hood when driving it.
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:54 AM (Merged)
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BRUCE HUNT
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A little vague there aren't you? What causes a toilet to leak? It varies but with better information it can be diagnosed.

Now about the car. Put some clean cardboard under the car and not the proximity to the engine of where the oil leak appears. You could have a hose problem, an oil pump problem, a valve cover gasket problem and any number of other things as well. You need to figure out which end of the vehicle is causing the problem.
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These vehicles had a tendancy to pop their balancer shaft seals.This is under the timing belt cover.
There are countless other places where they could leak but without more information its hard to be more specific.
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:54 AM (Merged)
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Yes, I seem to have an oil leak coming from the left side of the engine on my 1991 Honda Accord Ex, manual with 142000 miles on it. I was wondering if it can be the front main seal or is it the timing cover seals?? If that is the case, should the timing belt be changed beacuse of it? And are the front main seal and the timing cover seals related to this? Thanks.
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:56 AM (Merged)
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I take it the engine is the 2.2L. I would guess that the problem is with either the seal or the oil pump. I would go for the oil pump. That is under the timing belt cover. I would take off the covers and check to see if the oil leak is coming from the oil pump area. Replace the oil pump, water pump and timing belt.
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:56 AM (Merged)
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JMSMITH1954
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just pulled off sparkplug wire to change plugs and it has oil in covering all but the top of the sparkplug???
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:56 AM (Merged)
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DON OLIVER
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easy fix. buy a valve cover gasket. a complete gasket will have the seals that seal the spark plug tubes from the oil under the valve cover. good luck
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My honda aI got a oil leake that leaves a puddle while park and slings oil all over my belt when i drive
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There is an oil pump o ring seal that sits in the front of the engine just behind the timing belt. We see them leak from there all the time.

Here is a guide and some diagrams to help you get the problem fixed.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-is-leaking-oil

Please let us know what happens and upload pictures or videos of the problem.

Cheers, Ken
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My car was running awesome and without any indication of problems no check engine light or strange sound or anything I mean it was running fabulous. I was on my way to work and as I turned into the parking lot my engine started smoking like it was on fire and oil went everywhere what would cause this?
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Hello,

This sounds to me like you have a bad gasket somewhere on your engine. It should be fairly simple to see where the oil is coming from. look for a concentration of oil, this is where the gasket has failed. Please get back to us where it is, or even upload a picture of where the leak is and we can go from there.

Thanks,
Alex
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my car is leak oil on the left side, and out of the tailpipe a white smoke come out when i try to accelerate.but when i check the oil for any signs of coolant.there isn't any please help
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F4I_GUY
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The oil leak could be numerous things
-oil pan
-cam seal
-crank seal
-oil filter
-oil pressure switch
etc.

You will have to clean the area off and run the vehicle to help locate the leak.
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:56 AM (Merged)
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Engine Cooling problem
1989 Honda Accord 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive Manual

what could be the cause of this
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Hi there,

There are a number of seals and gaskets that cane be at fault, i will need some extra info, wash the engine down and check for leaks, try and describe what you see, bust guess will be fine.

Mark (mhpautos)
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I have an 89 accord that i just replaced the water pump. the antifreeze leak stopped but now i have a bad oil leak. i dont understand what i could have done to make it leak that much oil. it never leaked a drip before i changed the water pump.
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Hi nissan240sxboy,

It sounds like the front main seal has popped out which happens. Here is a guide and diagrams to help you get the job done.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/front-main-seal-replacement

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-is-leaking-oil

Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know what happens.

Cheers
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You were right it was the front seal I took it back apart and replaced it thanks for the tip. I love this site.
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Nice work, we are here to help, please use 2CarPros anytime.

Cheers
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I have a 1988 Honda accord DX 121K on it
(1) and i have a major oil leak the car needs about a quart in 10 days maybe 15 days and also when im stoped at lights i see burning oil out of the driver side wheel area (not the hood) .

(2)it sounds to me (a either or) the valve is stuck or the lifter is knocking not to sure so here it goes i feel it to the touch of the valve cover the knocking feel when at idle of course and when driving it knocks so much faster you dont hear it. accept when i let off the gas and roll to a stop i hear it also.

what i kinda wanted to know how much do you think it would cost in repairs or would it be better iff done at home or what and thank you very much for your help .
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BRUCE HUNT
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First of all where is the oil leaking from. It sounds as though it is leaking and finding its way to the exhaust system where it is burned off causing the smoke. Second, I would pull off the valve cover and look for anything loose and anything not connected or not supposed to be in there. Is there oil in the plug holes?
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ok....its a no on the plug holes when i checked about a week agO i beleave the highest i see oil is just under the valve cover, top of exhaust manifold and thanks alot for your help bruce

UPDATE i checked again on the plug holes and no theres no oil getting into them whitch is amazing but the oil is coming from the vlave cover
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her is to picks i took (((number one is the driver side of the car)))) (((number two is the valve cover))))


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/64040_pick_of_oil_leak_2.jpg


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/64040_valve_cover_2.jpg

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BRUCE HUNT
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Get a valve cover gasket and pull that head off. Check the valve train assembly for any loose items and any foreign materials floating around.
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Engine problem
1988 Honda Accord Engine Size unknown Two Wheel Drive Automatic 190000 miles
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I have an oil leak in my engine. It has been leaking slowly since I got it back from being repaired at a mechanics. Could they have done something to have caused it, and how serious is it?
Many thanks,
JIm.
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OK thank you so very much bruce
keep up the good work
also if you go to www.youtube.com
keyword robert95691 you will see two videos i posted on the knocking noise
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[quote:5ca9a084f0="bizzybodhi"]Engine problem
1988 Honda Accord Engine Size unknown Two Wheel Drive Automatic 190000 miles
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Hi.
I have an oil leak in my engine. It has been leaking slowly since I got it back from being repaired at a mechanics. Could they have done something to have caused it, and how serious is it?
Many thanks,
JIm.[/quote:5ca9a084f0]

first check where the leak its coming from could be just a loose oil filter or drain bolt.
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BRUCE HUNT
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I listened to the tractor running. That is what it sounds like. Try a couple of things. Look down when the engine is running along the side of the engine where the belts run. Look at all of the pulleys and make sure that the harmonic balancer is running smooth and true. It should have no wobble to it at all. With the engine off, grab the harmonic balancer, the big pulley off the crankshaft and be sure it is not loose.

If that wasn't the problem, take a big screw driver and with the engine running put the blade against the engine and your ear to the handle. Listen. Move the screwdriver around on the engine, valve cover, side and determine if there is a section of the engine that is worse than any other.
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