the car doesn't want to start. It makes a strange noise?

[quote:76359c1bea="DanaG1"]I bought a 1999 plymouth voyager, v6, 3.3l and after i changed the battery, the car doesn't want to start. It makes a strane noise, like something is broke inside the engine or somewhere. Any idea what happened and how can be fixed? Thanks![/quote:76359c1bea]

you had no prblem before the new battery
did you install the battery the correct way
B+ and B-

is the battery fully charged

can you try to get jump

did you check the oil
why the battery was replaced
let us know
good luck

[quote:9c3a1b3bfb="BMRFIXIT"][quote:9c3a1b3bfb="DanaG1"]I bought a 1999 plymouth voyager, v6, 3.3l and after i changed the battery, the car doesn't want to start. It makes a strane noise, like something is broke inside the engine or somewhere. Any idea what happened and how can be fixed? Thanks![/quote:9c3a1b3bfb]

you had no prblem before the new battery
did you install the battery the correct way
B+ and B-

is the battery fully charged

can you try to get jump

did you check the oil
why the battery was replaced
let us know
good luck[/quote:9c3a1b3bfb]

Well...the battery is new, just bough it from the store and yes, it is installed correctly. So..since is new and fully charged..i don't think need a jump....

[quote:bdc2a973a7="DanaG1"][quote:bdc2a973a7="BMRFIXIT"][quote:bdc2a973a7="DanaG1"]I bought a 1999 plymouth voyager, v6, 3.3l and after i changed the battery, the car doesn't want to start. It makes a strane noise, like something is broke inside the engine or somewhere. Any idea what happened and how can be fixed? Thanks![/quote:bdc2a973a7]

you had no prblem before the new battery
did you install the battery the correct way
B+ and B-

is the battery fully charged

can you try to get jump

did you check the oil
why the battery was replaced
let us know
good luck[/quote:bdc2a973a7]

Well...the battery is new, just bough it from the store and yes, it is installed correctly. So..since is new and fully charged..i don't think need a jump....[/quote:bdc2a973a7]
did u have the prob before the new battery

Some battery sits on self for a long time And many new ones I have replaced and they were defective

No, the problem occur after I put the new battery. What makes me wonder is the noise that seems to came from inside the engine: it is like something is broke..

The battery is manufactured this year, on july

[quote:ee6bb89691="DanaG1"][quote:ee6bb89691="DanaG1"][quote:ee6bb89691="BMRFIXIT"][quote:ee6bb89691="DanaG1"][quote:ee6bb89691="BMRFIXIT"][quote:ee6bb89691="DanaG1"]I bought a 1999 plymouth voyager, v6, 3.3l and after i changed the battery, the car doesn't want to start. It makes a strane noise, like something is broke inside the engine or somewhere. Any idea what happened and how can be fixed? Thanks![/quote:ee6bb89691]

you had no prblem before the new battery
did you install the battery the correct way
B+ and B-

is the battery fully charged

can you try to get jump

did you check the oil
why the battery was replaced
let us know
good luck[/quote:ee6bb89691]

Well...the battery is new, just bough it from the store and yes, it is installed correctly. So..since is new and fully charged..i don't think need a jump....[/quote:ee6bb89691]
did u have the prob before the new battery[/quote:ee6bb89691]

No, the problem occur after I put the new battery. What makes me wonder is the noise that seems to came from inside the engine: it is like something is broke..[/quote:ee6bb89691]
The battery is manufactured this year, on july[/quote:ee6bb89691] and i don't think is the battery because the engine turns, the lights turn on, it is ..the car don't start...it is possible to be the timming belt?

Some times if the battery don’t have enough AMPS in it The starter will make this kind of noise You can try to crank the engine by hand and listen for noises

When i bought the battery, i told them for what car and what engine it have . To me look so strange how it broke like over night. Looks like is the timing belt but..not sure how broke while the car was sitting?!?

3.3l its a timing chain
so the car turn over but no start and making that noise

[quote:a613640535="BMRFIXIT"]3.3l its a timing chain
so the car turn over but no start and making that noise[/quote:a613640535]
exactly!

do you have a lot of miles on it?

How can i look or...how hard it is to look and see if the timing chain is broke? B

The car have about 120,000 mi

Very uncommon put possible Remove oil cap Have a helper crank the engine You watch the rocker if it move Also cycle key three times off on Read if you have codes

And are you sure the noise internal. May be u take the belt off just in case it’s a pulley or alternator

[quote:804e14e7bb="BMRFIXIT"]Very uncommon put possible
Remove oil cap
Have a helper crank the engine
You watch the rocker if it move
Also cycle key three times off on
Read if you have codes[/quote:804e14e7bb]

If the chain is broke..it is hard to change it? And..what do you mean by cycle key three times off on? where should I see the codes?

[quote:9dbbabd94b="DanaG1"][quote:9dbbabd94b="BMRFIXIT"]Very uncommon put possible
Remove oil cap
Have a helper crank the engine
You watch the rocker if it move
Also cycle key three times off on
Read if you have codes[/quote:9dbbabd94b]

If the chain is broke..it is hard to change it? And..what do you mean by cycle key three times off on? where should I see the codes?[/quote:9dbbabd94b]

when you do that the check engine will binlk a
code s or on the odometer will read something like p0000 or done

its not very hard to do t chain
50/50

If the chain is broke..it is hard to change it? And..what do you mean by cycle key three times off on? where should I see the codes?

what does 50/50 mean? any idea how to align the gears? or are there signs? and.how do i know what the codes mean?

When you get ther let me know I will help 50/50 Means its not hard but not ez. You need tools and some skills

its about 5 1/2 hr job

well, my husband changed a timing belt at one car so, with little advice..i guess he will have some idea about it :) the problem will be i won't be home till late afternoon tomorrow to send mess on the comp. And, because here is night, i will try to do the key cycle tomorrow morning and let you know. Tks!

I try to cycle the key....i saw that every time i turn it off, the light check engine lit very very little, ( lit 3 times, no blink, just lit a bit then off) also, when i try to start..this time doesn't even want to crank the engine. Try to jump it but, no work. Lights are on...also cannot see anything if open the oil cap because looks like have a metal there to cover it

Hello! Well...here to give some updates: i had someone manually crank the engine and said it work. now, if i turn the ignition on, but not having the engine start, stop just before that, a noise like repeatedly knocking is heard and if try to turn the ignition like in starting the car, the car won't start. So we came up with the idea that is either a relay which is bad and stop the starter for doing its job , is the starter that is not working anymore , or both. So should i change the starter, the relay or both? What do you think or..what do you suggest!?! tks!

Hello! Well...here to give some updates: i had someone manually crank the engine and said it work. now, if i turn the ignition on, but not having the engine start, stop just before that, a noise like repeteadly knocking is heard and if try to turn the ignition like in starting the car, the car won't start. So we came up with the idea that is either a relay which is bad and stop the starter for doing its job , is the starter that is not working anymore , or both. So should i change the starter, the relay or both? What do you think or..what do you suggest!?!

[quote:835d1b2dad="DanaG1"]Hello! Well...here to give some updates: i had someone manually crank the engine and said it work. now, if i turn the ignition on, but not having the engine start, stop just before that, a noise like repeteadly knocking is heard and if try to turn the ignition like in starting the car, the car won't start. So we came up with the idea that is either a relay which is bad and stop the starter for doing its job , is the starter that is not working anymore , or both. So should i change the starter, the relay or both? What do you think or..what do you suggest!?![/quote:835d1b2dad]

are you sure the battery is fully charged
beside the battery u have a black box and all relays are in it
does the clicking start when you open the door
i m thinking may be an old alarm system

The battery is brand new, just bought it yesterday, manufactured in july..and no, the knocking start when the ignition key is turned on, just about to start the car ( if turned to start the car, the car doesn't want to start)

Unplug the instrument cluster and It very well may start, pretty common with these clusters. They have a couple solder joints that have a problem. Battery replacement seems to create/ expose a problem. Gadzooks, stop quoting each other already

What is the instrument cluster and where is located?

There you go with that quoting thing again :lol:

IT is the gauges you look at. Speedo, fuel tank, oil light etc. You know Instrument panel. A quick test is also to bang on the dash over it and sometimes that joustles it temporarily.

Ok let’s start over
You had no problem before the battery replaced
Know van don’t start and you re hearing a clicking from under the hood
You try to start the engine will not turn over
you have lights horn and radio all working
Let me know

[quote:ffa1845278="BMRFIXIT"]Ok let’s start over
You had no problem before the battery replaced
Know van don’t start and you re hearing a clicking from under the hood
You try to start the engine will not turn over
you have lights horn and radio all working
Let me know[/quote:ffa1845278]

Exactly. and the noise is like a knocking repeatedly and figured like starter don't want to work or some relay doesn't want to work

[quote:6fef46dfdb="DanaG1"][quote:6fef46dfdb="BMRFIXIT"]Ok let’s start over
You had no problem before the battery replaced
Know van don’t start and you re hearing a clicking from under the hood
You try to start the engine will not turn over
you have lights horn and radio all working
Let me know[/quote:6fef46dfdb]

Exactly. and the noise is like a knocking repeatedly and figured like starter don't want to work or some relay doesn't want to work[/quote:6fef46dfdb]
ok lets start with the noise where is it
Can u identify where the noise coming from is it
Under the hood
Driver side or pass side
With that noise is the engine trying to turn

[quote:be9ad75596="BMRFIXIT"][quote:be9ad75596="DanaG1"][quote:be9ad75596="BMRFIXIT"]Ok let’s start over
You had no problem before the battery replaced
Know van don’t start and you re hearing a clicking from under the hood
You try to start the engine will not turn over
you have lights horn and radio all working
Let me know[/quote:be9ad75596]

Exactly. and the noise is like a knocking repeatedly and figured like starter don't want to work or some relay doesn't want to work[/quote:be9ad75596]
ok lets start with the noise where is it
Can u identify where the noise coming from is it
Under the hood
Driver side or pass side
With that noise is the engine trying to turn[/quote:be9ad75596]
yea, even with that noise, the engine try to turn...

[quote:82014f6573="DanaG1"][quote:82014f6573="BMRFIXIT"][quote:82014f6573="DanaG1"][quote:82014f6573="BMRFIXIT"]Ok let’s start over
You had no problem before the battery replaced
Know van don’t start and you re hearing a clicking from under the hood
You try to start the engine will not turn over
you have lights horn and radio all working
Let me know[/quote:82014f6573]

Exactly. and the noise is like a knocking repeatedly and figured like starter don't want to work or some relay doesn't want to work[/quote:82014f6573]
ok lets start with the noise where is it
Can u identify where the noise coming from is it
Under the hood
Driver side or pass side
With that noise is the engine trying to turn[/quote:82014f6573]
yea, even with that noise, the engine try to turn...[/quote:82014f6573]

Please try to answer the questions
Where is the clicking
I know under the hood
Is it driver side pass side in the mid ?

Also key on you re not starting the engine you hear the noise
Is the engine trying to turn (with key on only)

I don't know where under the hood, i hear it from inside, didn't have someone else trying to start and me, to be outside and look. When the key is on and about ready to start the car, i hear the noise, if i turn the key completely, the car didn't start, but still hear the noise. if i try to do that few times, at one point the engine try to start but..don't.

i know u said it a new battery just for what ever try to get a jump or get the battery exchanged good luck

I tried to jump it but it still wouldn't start..i will see what i will do tomorrow, thanks!

I just wanted to get in on the quote action Not tryin to step on any toes, but I ran into this once before after a battery replacement. The cluster ties into the the bcm as the diagram shows....

see this post also: http://www.2carpros.com/forum/electrical-problem-vt44083.html?highlight=

Found out that the noise is make when the ignition is on, by a relay which have written on it " auto shut down relay" And..how can i get too see that image? Tks!