No spark at plugs or distributor?

1993 HONDA CIVIC
250,000 MILES • 1.6L • 4 CYL • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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BRIANMF
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car shut off while in park. cranks fine but wont start. replaced entire distributor assembly, still no spark. pgm-fi tested fine. battery is good.
Dec 1, 2019 at 12:51 PM
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KASEKENNY
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Okay. We need to check and see where we have voltage on the coil. I number the 3 wires that we need to check. This will help determine if the coil is the issue or if the ICM is the issue. Also, it could be a voltage issue to the coil but since the engine cranks I assume this is okay but we need to test just to be sure.

Let me know what you find and we can go from there.
Dec 1, 2019 at 7:51 PM
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BRIANMF
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I'm kinda skipping ahead a bit since I've tested from the plugs to the distributor prior to writing. and also entire distributor assembly (including ignition coil) was replaced when this issue occurred. from reading what you have said to others and what I've read online in pretty sure I've narrowed it down to the ignition switch. I'm currently trying to test it but cant figure out which connector is the 7-p in the diagram attached.
Dec 4, 2019 at 7:02 PM
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Unfortunately this is the only document I can find on it. However, of the connectors under the steering column it should be the only 7 pin connector so that is the give away that it is it. Also, look for it to have the layout pictured, 3 pins on the top, 4 pins on the bottom.
Dec 5, 2019 at 6:43 PM
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BRIANMF
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I found it and tested those, but I'm not sure what they should test at.
Dec 7, 2019 at 9:45 AM
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BRIANMF
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the first one tested at 11 ohms and the rest at 1.
Dec 7, 2019 at 9:48 AM
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Okay. I am not sure I understand how you are testing this. Take a look at the diagrams. You should be testing each of the terminals in each different key position. Position 0 is no key in the ignition. Position I is in ACC, position II is "on", position III is start, key in is key just in the ignition.

Let me know if this is how you tested it. If it is, all they care about is continuity. If you have resistance (as you do) then it doesn't matter about the actual resistance reading.
Dec 7, 2019 at 7:05 PM
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BRIANMF
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I retested it to make sure I has right readings in right positions and the test for position 1 (white/black acc. and white battery) had no continuity.
Dec 8, 2019 at 8:42 PM
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KASEKENNY
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Okay. If this is the case, it looks like the steering lock assembly needs to be replaced. See the highlighted portion.
Dec 9, 2019 at 7:03 PM
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BRIANMF
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is there anything specific that needs to be done while doing that other than just replacing the part (programming, resetting anything, etc.)?
Dec 9, 2019 at 7:07 PM
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KASEKENNY
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I don't show any. The only thing it mentions is rearming the airbag but nothing as far as programming.
Dec 10, 2019 at 4:50 PM
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BRIANMF
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I replaced the ignition lock and now it doesnt turn over and no lights on the dash. just beeps when key is inserted
Dec 17, 2019 at 3:48 PM
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The key doesn't turn in the ignition and the dash lights don't turn on? Does the key turn at all?
Dec 18, 2019 at 3:15 PM
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LADON ENFINGER
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My honda was running fine and died all of a sudden. I have changed the main relay, the ICM, and checked all the fuses. But no dice . still want crank. What do you think?
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:00 PM (Merged)
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KHLOW2008
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Hi ladon enfinger,

Did you check if the distributor rotor is turning when engine is being cranked? If rotor is not turning, the timing belt has given way.
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:00 PM (Merged)
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Electrical problem
1992 Honda Civic 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic ?? miles

Owner had a dead battery. Car was jumped and engine started. While engine was running the owner disconnected the negative cable from the battery (said he wanted to see if the alternator was working) the engine died. It would not start again. No spark. I
have the Haynes manual for this car. All voltages and ohm readings are normal (according to manual) in the distributor. Battery, Distributor and computer have been replaced from junk yard except battery is new. Still NO SPARK, all fuses inside and under the hood are good. Any ideas what might be wrong ??
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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Did you check the main battery fuse (60amp)?

Disconnecting the negative battery terminal can cause extreme electrical damage on vehicles. If all the fuses and relays are fine, I would look into the modules to be blown.
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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92 honda civic SOHC SI 1600 CC. 225,000 miles. I was heading to work and the engine died. Everything works and the engine turns but there is no spark to the plugs. I have replaced the Ignitor. I still do not get any spark. I check the voltage to the coil. It is within specs. The coil checks out at 10,000. but should be between 13 to 19,000. I would think I would be getting spark. I have checked all of the fuses. I had a CRX a few yrs back and the same thing happened. They told me it was a relay switch. Could this be the same?
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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BLACKOP555
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if the coil is putting out power but still no spark then it is not the relay! does your model have a distributor and rotor? if so check for carbon build up or cracks. also tfi module could be loose.
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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The Primary Coil resistance is 0.6 ohms and the secondary resistance is 10.2k ohms. I do not have a test light but I hooked a meter to the + and - terminals of the coil with the meter set at 20v and cranked the vehicle. The charge fluctuated between .4 to .7 . The rotor cap and rotor look ok. there does not seem to be any cracks in the cap and the wires test fine. What is the TFI modual and where is it located?
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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BLACKOP555
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tfi is another name for ignition module. it is located on the side of the distributor. also check the crank position sensor.
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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GOLDY79
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I have a 1991 civic, SOHC. I drove my car home, next day it would not start. Turns over, sounds like it is trying to start but won't go. I had the distributor replaced 1 year ago. Removed plug wires from spark plugs and turned car over - no spark or clicking. If I try and start it a couple of times there is a strong fuel smell.
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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KHLOW2008
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Hi goldy79,

Test for power supply to distributor Black/Yellow eire. If power is available with ignition switch turned to ON and while cranking, the ignition coil or ICM is bad.
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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BEARSAUTO1026
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I replaced distributors and it ran then I parked it and tried to start it no spark . I pulled the main and satored and it started only to shutdown again . I have power at the black and yellow wire going into the distributor, but no spark to plugs.
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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Hey BEARSAUTO1026

Im wondering if the timing belt is in tact, can you remove the oil filler cap and cranks the engine over to see if the camshaft is rotating?

Please let me know

Best, Ken
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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BEARSAUTO1026
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Yes the cam is turning
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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Is it a new or used distributor? If it was used do you see rust colored dust inside?
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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BEARSAUTO1026
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No colored dust as I said it was a new distributor I put on sunset time I've replaced the igniter I replace the coil I ran a check on the igniter and on the green wire green and black I have battery voltage on the blue and white I have battery voltage on the Green yellow wire I have continuity on the blue wire I do not have continuity could this be my problem I grounded the blue wire have to distributor but try and still no spark I have signal hat the positive terminal for the coil but the coil does not fire I replace the coil still no fire I yet to check if I'm getting signal from the yellow green wire but what the signal going through the coil indicate that the computer ecm is operating as it's supposed to I put a different a new ignition switch in the car still has no spark do you have any direction that I might pursue to get this done
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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I found this wiring diagram so you can do some testing.

Blk/yel should have power with the ignition on, also disconnect the blue wire and try it in case the tach is shorted out causing the problem.

Let me know,

Best, Ken
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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BEARSAUTO1026
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My car has no spark, but engine turns over when I turn the key. The engine has compression and I can hear the fuel pump prime for about ten seconds engine cranks but produces no spark. I have replaced the distributor and checked the main relay. I have checked the power at the bulk and yellow wire at the two line plug on distributor and it has battery voltage. After replacing the distributor I was able to get the car to start and run only to return when I shut the engine down. I have no other direction to pursue.
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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Hey BEARSAUTO1026,

This sounds like an ignition coil problem, when you replaced the distributor did you get a rebuild one or used?

Best, Ken
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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BEARSAUTO1026
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I replaced the distributor with a new one. After more searching I've did some more testing. The igniter connectors blk and y have battery v the Blu and what has battery v . The green and y has cont. The blue wire does not is this a indicator of the direction I should take
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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Here is a testing procedure for you.

Perform an input test for the igniter unit after finishing the fundamental tests for the ignition system and fuel emission system. Check for blown No.32 (50 A) fuse in the dash fuse box before testing.
Remove the distributor cap, the leak cover and the rotor.

Disconnect the WHT wire, BLK/YEL wire, WHT/BLU wire, and the BLU wire from the igniter unit.
Use a voltmeter to check for battery voltage between the BLK/YEL wire and the body ground with the ignition switch ON
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a) If there is no voltage, check for an open in the BLK/YEL wire between the igniter unit and the ignition switch.

b) If there is battery voltage, go to step 4.
Use a voltmeter to check for battery voltage between the WHT/BLU wire and the body ground with the ignition switch ON.

a) If there is no voltage, check for:
-Faulty ignition coil.
An open in the WHT/BLU wire between the igniter unit and the ignition coil.

b) If there is battery voltage, go to step 5.
Check for continuity between the WHT wire and the body ground.

a) If there is no continuity, check for:
An open in the WHT wire between the igniter unit and the PGM-FI ECU. -Poor ground at thermostat housing (G101 or G151). Refer to Cooling System / Cooling Fan Motor / Diagrams . See: Engine, Cooling and Exhaust\Cooling System\Radiator Cooling Fan Motor\Diagrams\Electrical

b) If there is continuity, go to step 6.
Check for continuity between the BLU wire and the body ground.

a) If there is no continuity, check for:
An open in the BLU wire between the igniter unit and the tachometer or the A/T control unit. -Poor ground at thermostat housing (G151), left front fender well next to washer bottle (G301) or left kick-panel (G401). Refer to Cooling System / Cooling Fan Motor / Diagrams . See: Engine, Cooling and Exhaust\Cooling System\Radiator Cooling Fan Motor\Diagrams\Electrical

b) If there is continuity, go to step 7.
If all continuity and voltage tests are normal, but the engine won't start, replace the igniter unit.
NOTE : The igniter unit may be covered under the manufacturer's emission warranty. Contact the appropriate agency before replacing.

Please run some tests and get back to us so we can continue helping you.

Best, Ken
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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BEARSAUTO1026
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I did the test you suggested and cleaned all (2) grounds. I found that seeing that there is no tack on my 1990 Honda Civic DX that the blue wire from the distributor is linked to the T/A . Is it recommended to change out the T/A and that would end this nightmare. Is a open at the blue wire is it enough to cause this problem
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We are missing something, here is a wiring diagram so you can do some testing, if all checks out the distributor is bad and you need another one to get the problem fixed.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-test-light-circuit-tester

Please let us know what happens.

Best, Ken
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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BEARSAUTO1026
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Well I am. Still dealing with the same car that I have spent last month trying to get back on the road
I have replaced the distributor again ( at $222.00 a shot ) only to get the PCM to kick back a 8 code.. I do not know if you have time to go back in the time that we spent in this problem so just let me touch on the shot that Honda must of invented just to up set me. I have a crank no spark problem for my f2f 1.5 automatic transmission no tachometer (I mention tachometer because the blue wire in distributor is still a open ) I have replaced main relay, distributor. And a new ing switch and still no spark. So thinking that I problem got took on the distributor. I took money that I really could not find a real reason to spend and went to the parts house with my weeks pay and bought another distributor (I know, but got so much in this repair what the heck). so I install the new part and checked the timing belt to just be sure that it was not the problem all good. I tried to start the money grabbing beast and all I got out of it was a response of the PCM eight flashes of red eight times. Can you please help me out after spending all that money my wife says I cannot come home, ha ha.
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code 8 s TDC so pull hazard fuse in main fuse-box for ten seconds then reinstall see if it starts. if not then it is a distributor or wiring issue instructions in picture. if it is a CRX or CRXF it may be different this is for a base Honda Civic.
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:01 PM (Merged)
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My 1990 civic dx daily driver with 200,000 miles experienced a low rpm misfire a year ago which became progressive. My shop determined the plug wires failed after I replaced cap, rotor, plugs. Ran fine til 2 months ago, it begain to misfire again at 258,000 miles. Got worse recently and then began violently backfiring, misfiting and died last night. I saw what looked like a cloud of light grey smoke behind me during the 15 mph acceleration engine failure. did not smell oil. Won't start. Just fires a little, barely runs, backfiring, stuttering. No bearing squeal. Check engine light intermittent illumination last year or so. Original fuel filter (couldn't remove, fuel line bolts so tight I couldn't figure way to remove)

What is it? Any help is appreciated.
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Wow - based on the last statement which says "Just fires a little, barely runs, backfiring, stuttering" I would be led to believe that is have a fuel deprivation. I think you are going to have to breakdown and replace that filter to start with. Then determine if it will run better, if not I would then consider getting it tested for fuel pressure.

You mentioned the CEL and I would see if it offers any pointers by pulling the codes from the ECU. Probably just points to an engine misfire but you never know. This could also be a cam or crank sensor that is bad.
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I have a 1989 Honda Civic DX with a 1.5l; when I turn the key the only thing I can hear/see come on is main relay, lights on dash and ECU the fuel pump doesn't come on at all and when I turned it to crank it there's no spark; I have replaced ICM, Ignition Coil, the rotor and did a little work on the main relay but still nothing... I checked the fuel pump cables and I'm not getting any power, I check the ECU and the only thing I found was code #20 which it means ELD is that the problem? what should I check next?
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How about the TDC sensor in the distributor have you rule that out
Nov 2, 2020 at 2:02 PM (Merged)