Engine rebuild

1984 CHEVROLET TRUCK
5 MILES • 7.4L • V8 • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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I'm currently rebuilding my 454 in my 1984 Chevrolet C20, and have been watching Ryan's video series on the process. I'd like to keep the build as stock as possible, including the oil/transmissions coolers, HEI ignition, etc. I realize this will give me a few extra hoses, cables, wires, etc. When Ryan got his engine running, his engine and compartment were much "cleaner" than mine ever was. I'm curious if there are any of the hoses and wires that can be safely removed without negatively affecting anything?
Dec 28, 2020 at 6:25 PM
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Good morning,

Can you upload some pictures of your truck under the hood? There are some you can eliminate but not that many.

Roy
Dec 29, 2020 at 1:42 AM
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Sure thing! Here you go.
Dec 29, 2020 at 7:23 AM
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Hi Twebb101!

I'm Ryan, from the YouTube series. First off, thank you so much for watching!

Secondly to answer your question. Ours is a custom build so it has a few things missing that something from factory you might want. On your rig the two things I could see cutting if you really want a cleaner look is getting a different carburetor with mechanical secondaries instead of vacuum. The other thing if you really do not use it is to take out the air conditioning. I know that last one is something most people would not want to lose.

Thank you again for watching and using 2CarPros!

-Ryan
Dec 29, 2020 at 10:46 AM
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Thanks Ryan!! Can you explain what the mechanical secondary's vs vacuum is? I don't understand what that means.
Dec 29, 2020 at 11:00 AM
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Mechanical is when linkage operates the secondary's.

The vacuum is when they are operated by the load.

Roy
Dec 29, 2020 at 11:19 AM
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Not a problem! So the secondaires on a 4 barrel carburetor add fuel when in a heavy throttle situation. There are two ways to achieve that. Either you rely on vacuum which requires a vacuum line from the intake manifold. Or you have a physical mechanical connection from the throttle actuation. You would need a different carburetor and to plug the vacuum line from the intake manifold.

I think the best and cheapest route for you to go is give the engine a nice wash, take off and paint the valve covers, then use zip ties to bunch everything together neatly. You would be absolutely shocked what a little elbow grease will do to the look of your engine bay.
Dec 29, 2020 at 11:32 AM
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Awesome, thank you! I'm planning on following your series to rebuild the engine, and when putting it back in the truck, I'm going to rewire it and tidy everything up as you suggested. I'm sure I'll have more questions as I go, but as always, top notch stuff from you and the 2CarPros team. Keep it up!
Dec 29, 2020 at 11:38 AM
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No problem! Awesome to read that! I made the series for that exact reason, that anyone could rebuild a big block in their garage.

Thanks so much for watching! We will be here for any of your questions totally free!
Dec 29, 2020 at 12:08 PM
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A follow up to this.. The truck has sat without running for about 8 years or so; before that, to my knowledge, everything worked great mechanically. What are the chances that I will need to replace the power brake booster, master cylinder, and other A/C/heater components in the engine bay?
Dec 31, 2020 at 3:29 PM
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Another follow up: exhaust manifolds. Attached are the two I removed from my engine. Are they good to just clean up and reuse? Should I get new ones? Also, can you tell me what the probes are that are inside of them? Do I need those? What would they connect to?
Feb 7, 2021 at 8:57 PM
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That is the tubes for the air injection system for emissions. If you are putting it back to stock, you can reuse them.

Otherwise, you can remove them and use plugs to insert in the manifold.

Roy
Feb 8, 2021 at 1:50 AM
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Two more follow ups:

1. Do you have any good references or information on ignition timing? It’s very confusing to me, and I’m not sure what to do for my rebuild?

2. Any suggestions for chrome/metallic paint for my belt pulleys?
Mar 14, 2021 at 2:59 PM
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The timing will depend on the camshaft you choose. The stock timing is 10 BTDC.

No to the paint. That will burn off very quickly from the heat build up. I would get the pulleys that are all chrome if that is what you want to use.

Roy
Mar 14, 2021 at 3:33 PM
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Regarding the oil pan: if the stock capacity of the engine is 7 quarts with filter, do I need a 7 quart oil pan?
Apr 26, 2021 at 11:41 AM
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Yes. In fact. I would suggest a 10 quart oil pan.

Roy
Apr 26, 2021 at 11:52 AM
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Earlier, I asked about the exhaust manifolds. The intake and water pump look similar to those. Should I have them sandblasted before I reuse them? Should I paint them at all, or just leave them bare metal?
Apr 29, 2021 at 2:34 PM
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I did answer about the manifolds. I would not paint them as the paint will burn off from the heat.

I would have the other parts sandblasted before reuse. Do not paint them but if you do, use high-temperature paint to try to keep them from peeling off.

Roy
Apr 29, 2021 at 4:53 PM
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Yes, I remember, I was just recalling that conversation. Thank you for the input.
Apr 29, 2021 at 6:31 PM
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Anytime.

Roy
Apr 29, 2021 at 6:36 PM
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Regarding the emissions air injection tubes for the exhaust manifolds: I can find the tubes online to buy, but I cannot find the extension tubes that connected to the air tubes and went directly inside the manifolds. Do I need those extensions, or just the main air tubes as shown in my earlier pics of the exhaust manifolds? The pics I posted earlier show the extender tubes in question.
May 4, 2021 at 12:08 PM
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If you are planning on the system working correctly, you will need the extenders.

Roy
May 4, 2021 at 3:47 PM
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I need to replace one of my exhaust manifolds; should I get oem cast iron, or put on some headers? Maybe these, if they'll fit? https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g9011/make/chevrolet/model/c20/submodel/silverado/year/1984
May 9, 2021 at 6:51 PM
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I would definitely go with the headers. Making the exhaust breather better increases performance dramatically.

If you were to replace the manifolds, use cast iron.

Roy
May 9, 2021 at 7:23 PM
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Great, thank you. If we do headers, how does that affect the AIR injection stuff...does all of that go away? I just bolt on the headers and call it good?
May 10, 2021 at 9:31 AM
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I would not install the system at all.

Roy
May 10, 2021 at 11:11 AM
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I would like to paint the heads before installing them on the block. I got them back from the machine shop, fully assembled (valves, springs, etc.), and clean cast iron. Am I okay to paint them and then bake them to cure them, or should I just paint them and install them, and let the engine heat (when running) cure them?
May 17, 2021 at 12:54 PM
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Paint them and install them. They will be fine.

Roy
May 17, 2021 at 1:21 PM
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Power steering pump re-use, or buy a different one?
May 20, 2021 at 7:00 PM
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You can reuse it as long as there was no issue prior to the rebuild.

Roy
May 20, 2021 at 9:39 PM
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Can you tell me what the small pulley is used for, to the left of the water pump? Is that the 'air compressor' for the exhaust air system? Or something else?
Jun 2, 2021 at 12:50 PM
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That is the air pump.

You will be removing that and not using it since you eliminated the parts in the exhaust manifold.

Roy
Jun 2, 2021 at 2:55 PM
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Any idea what this vacuum part is? It's on the intake manifold, right next to the thermostat. Obviously the tubing is wrong, but I'm trying to find out what it is, and if I need to replace it.
Jun 14, 2021 at 12:13 PM
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That is a thermostatic switch. There is a vacuum on one side all the time but will only pass a vacuum when it reaches a certain temperature.

They used it for 2 reasons. It was for the EGR valve if it has one. It also controls the vacuum advance for the distributor if it has one.

Roy
Jun 14, 2021 at 12:22 PM
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Battery/power/ground cables...I need to replace mine on the truck. Can you give me an idea of what, how many, how long, gauge, etc.?
Jul 2, 2021 at 9:23 AM
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Okay, I attached the battery cables below for you. It lists the length, gauge and it has the ends already installed.

You have 2 cables. You can get them at a parts store if you do not want to get them from a parts store.

Roy
Jul 2, 2021 at 1:14 PM
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The radiator we pulled out was a 4-row core; LMC says I need a 1-row core. Should I replace what I had, or get the cheaper, less-core, unit? Any pros/cons?
Jul 8, 2021 at 4:40 PM
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Leave that one in there. It gives extra cooling to the system. No harm in added cores at all.

Roy
Jul 8, 2021 at 5:05 PM
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Can you tell me what this part is? It seems like some sort of vacuum thing…?
Jul 22, 2021 at 6:14 PM
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It is for the cruise comtrol. Vacuum is applied and it pulls on the throttle to adjust vehicle speed.

Roy
Jul 23, 2021 at 2:54 AM