code of p0732

yes i do cover the hole with my finger

So the when you air up the 2nd clutch pack port the clutches wont move till you put pressure on the clutches themselves?2nd gear is the larger of the two clutch packs that are back to back.

um when i put air to the port for the 2nd apply piston it moves and stays out it is not like the 3rd apply piston where it goes back and forth it the 2nd clutches are the ones facing the drives side wheel and the 3rd are facing the other way on the same shaft. the 2nd clutches seem to move better when i put my finger on the other than that they do move on there own just slower by the way there does not seem to be any leaks that i can see or hear but i don't know what i should be looking for. this is my first time doing this kinda thing.

where are you located i am in the bay area hayward

Iam in southern California you can pouring some transmission fluid over the clutch housings and look for.bubbles i have used that method to find leaks before.Another thing that happens to those transmissions is the input shaft that the 1st 2nd and 3rd gear are on the nut that goes againist the 1st gear clutch pack under the side cover loosens up.I have seen them loose up so much you loose reverse all together.Also to where the first gear clutch pack eats into the side cover.But you said as soon as you shift into reverse the pressure shoots to over 200 psi even though there is a 5 second delay into reverse?

yes it shoot over 200 then it drops for 5 sec. then it shoot back over 200 so do you think i should check the nut and see if it is torque to 150ft? or is it 115 ft?

It shouldnt drop pressure like that when in reverse it should go toover 200 and stay there the pressure is going somewhere.I always torque the nut the nut to 115 ftlbs.If the nut is loose then remove the nut and add loctite then torque it down.Also when air checking 2nd and 3rd gear does the shaft move a lot?

okay so i took off the side cover and grabbed the 1 set of clutches and there is play in the shaft of course i did not have the 23 mm socket to see if it was loose but just to be safe i will remove the nut and add loc-tight and torque it to 115ft lb. and i'll torque the other nut too seem how i have the cover off. when i air checked it i did not see or feel the shaft move

If the clutch pack has looseness on the shaft then the nuts loose you will need a thin wall socket probably a 3/8" drive one.Also when putting the side cover back on there is a trick so dont damage the seals and tubes.Before putting the side cover back on look down into the shafts and see if the bushings in them are in good shape.Now when installing the side put the transmission in drive.But be careful not to jamb or bend the rod going to the manual valve of the valve body since its not hooked up with the valve body off.Then while inserting the tubes in shafts and installing the side cover turn the left front wheel hub as you slide the cover on.That way the cover will slide right on otherwise you will probably fight the cover and damage something.

okay i torque the two nuts and put it all back together and now it wont go into reverse what did i do wrong?

i torques it to 115ft lbs then i air checked it and every thing seem to still move so i put the valve body back and started it up but it goes forward and it feels it it is in gear when it is in park and reverse goes forward and neutral goes forward too could i have bent the tube? would the tube cause this issue?

If you did it the way i told you the tubes shouldnt have gotten bent.First thing that comes to mind is bent manual valve linkage or not hooked to the manual valve?

i took side cover back off and it looks okay so i put it back on i don't understand all i did was put the valve body back on then the cover hooked the wires back up. did not unhook manual valve i did notice that i did not hear the solenoids when i put into gear it acts like it is in the forward gears in all gear selection even park if it was not for the parking gear i think it would go forward

i will check and see if i popped a fuse for the transmission tomorrow i hope that is all that happen

You have to unhook the manual valve linkage from it when removing the valve body.Then hook the manual valve back up when reinstalling the valve body.

"yes you are right" i opened it back up and found out that i did not hook it back up i did hook it back up but now i think it is bent so i will have to see if i can straighten it on monday

I knew it i have done it once before and yes they get bent and ground up from doing that.Is it hard to shift thru the gears now?If so its bent.

yes it is bent i will straighten it

Let me know how that goes.

okay i straighten the rod that goes down to the park and took the other rod out and replaced it with the one from the other trans it shifts like it was new nice and smooth i also changed the temp sensor too.

That's great its finally fixed i guess it wasn't as good of shifting transmission as they said it was when you complained to them it had issues.Glad to hear its fixed good thing i know these transmissions inside and out or it would have been a lot harder to help you over the internet.

yes you are the man thanks for your help i could have not done it with out your help thanks again

Your welcome thats what were here for.

2000 saturn 4 cylinder front wheel drive with p0732 engine code is this a problem with the valve body or is there more I need to do

Go to this link: https://www.2carpros.com/questions/saturn-other-troubleshooting-code-p0732

Determine if DTCs P0745, P0746, P0756, P0758, P0761, P0763, P0766, P0768, P0782, P0783 and P0789 are present. These DTCs must be eliminated first as a possible cause for DTC P0732.
Check actuator operation. See ACTUATOR QUICK CHECK under ADDITIONAL SYSTEM FUNCTIONS. Operating sound of all actuators should be similar. If 2nd line actuator cannot be heard operating, inspect actuator and replace as needed.
Check pressure regulator valve operation. If line pressure does not change or changes slightly, regulator valve is stuck. Repair as needed.
Air check 2nd clutch operation. . If 2nd clutch air checks okay, disassembly of transaxle will be necessary to inspect internal components.
Cross-channel leaks may cause other clutches to be applied. If PCM detects other gears are stuck on, other DTCs will be present. This may help locate cross-channel leak.
If clutch applies and releases, check valve body for damage. If clutch does not operate, check for failed clutch plates.

Do you have a delay or a bang into reverse?Most of the time that code is caused by a pressure issue inside the transmission caused by the pressure regulator inside of the valve body.You would need to do a high low pressure test and step pressure test on the transmission pressure.The step pressure test and buzzing the actuator's like the flow chart above show's requires a tech2 scan tool loaded with the saturn software.You would also have remove the valve body and air check the clutches to make sure the clutch piston's are all holding.It's not really a do it yourself job because it requires the tech2 with the correct software which is really expensive and the know how to use it to perform the test's.You would also need the skill and knowledge to remove the valve body and air check the clutches with compressed air.

it dosent have reverse and no other codes are present

You have two of the same question's going let's stick with the other question you have going.On there i explained why you would have a no second gear and no reverse and went a little more in detail.

p0732 engine code. is this a problem with the valve body or is there more I need to do?

it does not have reverse and no other codes are present. just the one code p0732. a mechanic says if he replaces valve body it will fix problem. is this true?

P0732 = No second gear.

You mentioned no reverse but the code indicates second gear is not working.

It could be the valve body or clutches. Ask the mechanic if replacing the valve body does not fix the problem what would he do? Is there any warranty on the job?

What I was thinking is that it was something simpler than valve body and they are trying to make the most out of job since second and reverse use same solenoid in valve body.

Here is something else you have to think about second and reverse use the same clutch pack and clutch piston also. On that late model of a S model Saturn i have seen a loose input shaft nut cause a no reverse on a lot of them. But the P0732 would go with a no reverse code if you loose second you would loose reverse. How did the guy figure out a bad valve body is causing the no reverse? I would buzz all the transmission valve body actuator's do a high and low line pressure reading and do a step pressure test. That will test the pump and the ability for the valve body to control the pressure. Also, i would make sure the input shaft nut is tight. I would also air check all the clutch pack's in the transmission including the reverse servo piston that will check the internals of the transmission for leak's.

it was put on diagnostic machine and this is what he told me.

What kind of diagnostic machine? A scanner on your obd2 connector? Did he just read the code's and say it need's a valve body?

I do not know how or why the mechanic told me what he did that is why i came on this site to get clarity if the valve body gets replaced with the p0732 code and no reverse or into reverse with delay is it a good idea to have valve body replaced since it holds all solenoids or should the input and output shaft nuts be tightened. please let me know.

I have worked for Saturn for over sixteen years. i am a factory trained Saturn tech you have a transmission problem even if i was there to see and drive the car i still could not tell you what is wrong with the transmission until i did some testing like air checking, the clutches pressure test's etc. I would have to physically check the input shaft nut to see if it is loose there is no way of telling it is loose without checking it that i know of. I have to ask question's as i did not talk to the guy that told you need a valve body or how he figured out that he did. I can tell you this if he did not pull off the valve body and air check the clutches how would he know if your second clutch piston is holding pressure which is also the clutch for reverse since reverse does not have its own clutch pack it share's it with second gear. I have not seen a bad valve body cause no reverse. i have seen a loose input shaft nut cause that and a leaking second gear clutch piston cause it. There is no cure all for a code p0732 you read about someone else that had that code and do the same thing he did to repair it does not mean it will fix your car too. You asked a question that does not have a direct answer without doing some diagnostics first. So to get mad because i did not just say sure whatever replace the valve body and hopefully that fixes your car and it did not, would make you a whole lot madder. I can tell you what need's to be checked to get a proper diagnoses and with the proper answer's to those thing's i asked to be checked then i could come up with a diagnoses to what is wrong with your car. Your expecting way too much from asking a question online about a transmission problem and getting all mad when someone asks for a answer to some question's about how the guy figured out it needed a valve body. I am here to give you a honest answer as to what is going on with your car and try to keep you from getting ripped off or spend money you do not need to spend. So the ball is in your court as to what you want to do. i am here to help you if you need me.

well, I guess I am just going to have to let mechanic use my vehicle as his parts dart board and hopefully he gets a bulls-eye. thanks anyway the car is only has book value of $800.00 and I am going to have to spend over $2,000.00 to repair.

the funniest thing about your statement is that you said the code is not because of only one thing, but all the stuff you named that could be wrong have their own codes. so if I am not getting any of the codes for the things you named then why and how could they be one of the problems?

I am not going to argue with you, but i will leave you with this. I mentioned a leaking second gear clutch piston that would cause a code p0732 and cause no reverse because they share that clutch piston and clutch pack. A valve body issue could effect the pressure's which could set a code p0732, but i have not seen that cause no reverse. i have seen that cause a delay and bang into reverse. You could have more then one problem. i have seen that a bad valve body and a loose input shaft a loose nut can cause a no reverse. I never said to let anyone use your car as a part's dart board. if that is what the guy is going to do i would take it somewhere else. You need to ask more question's like how that guy figured out it was a bad valve body. That is how you keep your car from being a part's dart board. Also, be a better listener when i write you replies to what could be going on with your car instead of picking it apart. Because i know what i am talking about especially when it come's to Saturn's i devoted over sixteen years of my life to find way's to fix them the best way i could. I'm here for you and on your side i do not want to see you spend money you do not have on repair's you do not need. So if you work with me and not to try to work against me i can help you. Start by finding out why that guy said you need a valve body and what he did to come to that diagnoses.