my bronco wount start

so you changed distributors?

yes i did

also replaced cap and rotor too

so when it's on TDC is distributor rotor pointing a #1 spark plug wire?

im not sure how to tell if the motor is tdc

crankshaft balancer has mark and front chain cover has gauge plate and you can feel piston thru spark plug hole with wire/hanger.

ok will check it in the am and get back to you

ok got the motor tdc and the rotor on the no 1 plug wire but still not firing any ideas? i got spark from the coil to the distributor.

HAVE IGNITION MODULE TESTED

SEE MY ANSWER ON "February 17, 2011" (ABOUT 3/4 OF THE WAY DOWN THE THREAD), LOOK AT #4----AT THIS POST

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/1984-jeep-cherokee-cj7

THE MEDIC

ok is there a home test for the modulator bec there is no place here in spencer ia that can test them. and was also told that the pick up in side the distributor could have gone bad any thoughts on this?

I JUST TRIED TO SEE WHAT YOUR DISTRIBUTOR'S WIRES LOOKED LIKE--I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WIRES, COLORS, OR WHAT THEY GO TO

IF YOU CAN FIND THE PICK UP, AND THE 2 WIRES INTO IT (I MEAN, INSIDE THE DISTRIBUTOR, NOT THE WIRES ON THE OUTSIDE)

RUN A CONTINUITY TEST THRU THE PICK UP (WHERE THE WIRES ENTER THE PICK UP) I DO NOT KNOW WHICH 2 WIRES IN THE CONNECTOR GO TO THE PICK UP, MAYBE YOU CAN TELL

MAKE SURE THE DIST IS DISCONNECTED FROM THE WIRE HARNESS


BELOW ARE PICS OF MY JEEP---USE AS A REFERENCE---AIN'T EXACTLY LIKE YOURS

1) WHAT IS THE VOLTAGE AT THE POS SIDE OF THE COIL W/ THE KEY "ON"????...... DISREGARD MY JEEP READINGS

2) AND 3) IF YOU HAVE NO/ LITTLE VOLTAGE AT POS SIDE OF COIL---TRY THIS JUST FOR GIGGLES---POS BATTERY TO POS COIL AND CRANK IT (UP)

LET ME KNOW YOUR RESULTS


4) CONTINUITY......OF COURSE YOU WOULD PUT THE WIRE/ PART TO BE TESTED BETWEEN THE 2 PROBES

5) NO CONTINUITY (BREAK IN WIRE, OPEN CIRCUIT)

AM I CONFUSING YOU?

THE MEDIC

ok will test in the am and get back to u thanks

ok from the looks of things the mod is good and the pick up in the dist. is bad i got the part but how do i replace the pick up in side of the dist.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU PAID FOR THE PART....MAY CAN GET YOUR $$$ BACK IF THIS CHANGES YOUR MIND

IF YOUR DISTRIBUTOR IS ANYTHING LIKE A "MOTORCRAFT" USED ON '79-'86 JEEP CJs---YOU REMOVE THE RETAINING RING ON THE TOP OF THE SHAFT AND JUST SORTA "DIG IN"!!!


HERE'S ANOTHER OPTION

THIS IS THE ONE I TRY TO DO, AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH "REMAN" YOU CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE OF IT AND NEW

THE VERY BEST THING IS---THE REMAN HAS BEEN "GONE THRU" NEW DIAPHRAGMS, BUSHINGS, ETC......FIXING YOURS, JUST REPLACES THE "ONE" PART......YOU ARE LEFT WITH WHAT YOU HAD

THE REMAN HAS A "LIFETIME WARRANTY".....I KEEP ALL OF MY RECEIPTS, AND I TAKE MY "JEEP RECEIPT/ IMPORTANT PAPERS/ WARRANTY BOOK" INTO WHATEVER STORE, NO MATTER WHERE I HAVE TRIED.......I HAVE NEVER BEEN TURNED DOWN ON "USE OF" ANY ONE I HAVE (THAT INCLUDES WORE OUT BRAKES AND OTHER STUFF!)

SEE MY LAST ANSWER AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS POST

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/1985-ford-mustang-cylinders-not-firing

I SAW 3 DISTRIBUTORS THAT ADVANCE SAYS WILL FIT YOUR RIG---THE CONNECTIONS, EXTERNAL OR ON DISTRIBUTOR IGN MODULE SEEM TO BE THE DIFFERENCES, YOU'LL HAVE TO DETERMINE WHICH ONE YOU HAVE, SO YOU CAN SEE THE PRICES

1ST I FOUND (WIRES AND CONNECTORS)

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Remanufactured-Distributor-Cardone_18630127-P_218_R%7CGRPTUNEAMS_____

THIS IS THE 2ND (NO WIRES, HARNESS PLUGS IN ON BOTTOM SIDE)

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Remanufactured-Distributor-Cardone_3851567-P_218_R%7CGRPTUNEAMS_____

THIS IS THE 3RD (MODULE ON SIDE)

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Remanufactured-Distributor-Cardone_18630219-P_218_R%7CGRPTUNEAMS_____


THERE ARE 2 WAYS TO REPLACE THE DISTRIBUTOR....EZ AND MORE DIFFICULT

IF YOU WANNA DO IT THE EZ WAY---DO NOT REMOVE THE DISTRIBUTOR OR EVEN MOVE IT......TILL YOU GET INSTRUCTIONS

FORGET ABOUT SWAPPING THE CORE OUT, UNTIL THE NEW (REMAN) ONE IS THERE TO COMPARE TO...STILL LEAVE IT ALONE!!!....NOT GONNA TAKE IT BACK, UNTIL THE OTHER ONE MAKES IT RUN!!!....SO SAVE YOUR RECEIPT!

IF ANY OF THE ABOVE WAS NOT DONE---THE "HARD WAY" IS GONNA BE THE WAY OUT

I CAN DO IT EITHER WAY....I LIKE EZ THE BESTUS!

I HAVE HELPED SEVERAL JEEP CJ FELLERS OVER THE PHONE, IF YOU LIKE THAT OPTION****LET ME KNOW*****AND I'LL SEND YOU A PRIVATE MESSAGE SO WE CAN WORK OUT THE DETAILS

I DO TRY TO KEEP INFO STILL GOING ON, IN THE FORUM, SO THAT OTHERS MIGHT BENEFIT FROM YOUR "SITUATION", IF THEY ARE SURFING AROUND FOR AN ANSWER TO THEIR PROBLEM

SO IT BOILS DOWN TO

FIX YOURS

REMAN

POSSIBLE PHONE HELP, WITH DIST INSTALL

DEPENDING ON YOUR ANSWER....I WILL POST "MY HOW TO INSTALL DIST THE EZ WAY".......YOU CAN THEN DIY OR DO THE PHONE COMMO THING

DO YOU HAVE A TIMING LIGHT?

AFTER WE'RE DONE, YOU CAN TAKE ME OUT FOR LUNCH FOR SOME "KRYSTAL BURGERS"

THE MEDIC

Ok i like the phone option but dont have the money for a reman dist. but if you might be able to help me replace core in the one i have that would be awesome. let me know

YOU DON'T LIKE MY LONG ANSWERS FILLED WITH LINKS DO YOU???!!!LOL!

HOW 'BOUT TELLIN' ME WHICH OF THE 3 DISTRIBUTORS IS THE ONE LIKE YOURS?

ALSO POST THE PART MANUFACTURER/ NAME/ PART NUMBER AND WHERE YOU GOT YOUR PART FROM

WILL SEND YOU A MESSAGE SOON AND ALSO TELL YOU HOW TO FIND IT---EMAIL NOTIFICATION WILL SAY "YOU HAVE A MESSAGE FROM CJ MEDEVAC" WHEN I DO SEND IT

THE MEDIC

ok mine is the third one that you sent and the part num on the pick up is a napa auto parts part num mp711sb

and not verry good with the comp lol im more of a hands on verbal kinda guy. lol

TOP OF THIS PAGE---CLICK ON YOUR USER NAME---THEN LOOK LEFT FOR "MESSAGES"

THE MEDIC

hay medic thanks for all the help i got that part on order will be here in five days

I WAS WRONG $49 ONE WAS NOT THE CORRECT ONE (sorry!)

I WENT TO http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php AND FOUND THIS ONE---MODULE COMES WITH IT


http://my.cardone.com/English/club/members/customer/ecat_brands/imageinfo.asp?PARTNUM=302884MA

AS FAR AS DIAGRAMS, GOT THIS 1ST ONE FROM "MITCHELL I"

THE 2ND, I JUST MADE FOR YOU!

3RD IS A PIC OF MY BUDDY'S "CUTE LITTLE SET"--IT WAS PURCHASED AT HARBOR FREIGHT----HAS ALL KINDS A GOODIES IN IT, ALL IN ONE COMPACT, "KEEP IT ALL TOGETHER" TOTE....AND IT ALL WORKS FINE AND IS ACCURATE! I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE $30 some odd RANGE............I HAVE THE BIGGER BULKY OLD STUFF THAT I HAVE OBTAINED OVER THE YEARS (STILL WORKS FOR ME!)

IF THEY DO NOT HAVE IT STILL, YOU MIGHT SEARCH THE NET USING THE MANUFACTURERS NAME---"3531" IS THE PART NUMBER AT THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE CASE......WHEN I LOOK FOR THE BEST PRICES, I INSERT A PART #, OR NAME, OR A GENERAL DESCRIPTION INTO http://www.shopzilla.com/ THEN I "SORT BY" OR GET A LONGER RESULTS LIST TO SPEED THINGS UP.........YOU MIGHT EVEN TRY THE DISTRIBUTOR #S IN THERE!


WE WILL PHONE COMMO AGAIN, BEFORE YOU START, OR EVEN DURING IF YOU WANT TO (LET ME KNOW SPECIFICS BY REPLYING TO MY PRIVATE MESSAGE, I STARTED BEFORE)

I'M ON HERE USUALLY EVERY EVENING (EASTERN)

THE MEDIC


SOMETHING WRONG W/ THE SITE, 4TH ATTEMPT TO SEND THIS--HAD TO REWRITE IT TWICE---THEN I GOT SMART THESE LAST TWO TIMES AND COPIED AND PASTED IT BACK IN!............NOW 5TH TRY!

hay medic i got the answer to why i didnt fire it was a pig tail relay that was right off the dist.

SO.........ARE YOU RUNNING?

HOW'D YOU FIGURE IT OUT?

THE MEDIC

well my uncle came down and tested all the relays on the bronco and that was the bad one. he put a jumper wire in it and she fired right off

WONDERFUL!

WHEN YOU GO TO TIME IT, DISCONNECT THE "SPOUT" THINGEE (IF YOU CAN FIND IT)

REMEMBER TO CONNECT IT BACK

LET ME KNOW HOW THINGS TURN OUT

THE MEDIC

ok now im back to squair one replaced the relay and still not firing

LOOK AT THE FEMALE CONNECTIONS, ARE THEY IN GOOD SHAPE, NOT BURNED OR MELTED?

INSERT THE RELAY IN THE CONNECTOR MULTIPLE TIMES TO SEE IF THAT "SCRAPES" YOU A GOOD CONNECTION....A DAB OF DIELECTRIC GREASE WON'T HURT EITHER

WITH THE RELAY REMOVED, CHECK THE FEMALE ENDS OF THE CONNECTOR, FOR VOLTAGE WHEN THE THE KEY IS "ON" OR EVEN WHEN THE THE KEY IS IN THE "START" POSITION......YOU MIGHT WANNA TEMPORARILY TAKE THE "S" WIRE OFF OF THE SOLENOID SO THE STARTER DOES NOT RUN WHILE YOU TEST

IF YOU WILL TELL ME WHAT THE RELAY IS FOR/ DOES, I WILL ATTEMPT TO TRACE ITS WIRING INTO AND OUT OF THE RELAY AND POST YOU, WHAT ELSE IN THAT CIRCUIT MIGHT AFFECT THAT RELAY'S OPERATION

THE MEDIC

Ok not sure of the pourpose of the relay is ive traced the wire to the fire wall frm there im not sure where it goes used the grease and the ends arent burnt there is low curent when tested with a test light from the neg side of the battery. when the key is in the on position. im kinda stumped

SEND ME A PIC FROM 4-5 FEET OUT---POINT TO IT'S LOCATION WITH A DISTINGUISHABLE OR COLORED ITEM SO I CAN SEE EXACTLY WHERE IT IS IN COMPARISON WITH OTHER RELAYS/ ETC

ALSO DESCRIBE IT'S LOCATION

"MITCHELL I" DOES SHOW LOCATIONS OF COMPONENTS IN SOME OF THEIR DIAGRAMS.....MAYBE I CAN IDENTIFY IT FROM YOUR INFO, I WILL SEND YOU THE DIAGRAM TOO, SO YOU CAN VERIFY......IF THAT'S POSSIBLE

THE MEDIC

ok will do that in the am

ok its location is right next to the dist mod clip that goes into the it has one peach wire with red stripe that comes off the clip and it goes from the dist to the harness up by the fire wall on the drivers side to the round deal and then not sure where from there

the peach wire has the relay on it

SO FAR I FOUND THESE DIAGRAMS--MAYBE YOU CAN TELL ME THE RELAY'S NAME, SO I CAN GET INTO THE WIRING DIAGRAMS

I THINK ALL OF THESE ARE FOR A 5.8---2 ARE NOT LABELED (SO IF SOMETHING DON'T MAKE SENSE, COULD BE THE WRONG DIAGRAM

THE MEDIC

ok from the looks of things its the spark output check connecter i guess from one of the diagrams and for some reason i cant get the pics from my cell to my comp so can i send the pics to your cell? call me and let me know

ok ibroke open one of those connecters and all it is apiece of metal with two prongs

TRY THE PAPERCLIP!

IF IT WORKED BEFORE, IT MUST BE A PROBLEM WITH THE CONNECTOR

KEEP US INFORMED

THE MEDIC

ok will do it in the am

Ok I tried the paperclip and didn't work

not sure where to go from here any ideas?

ALL I GOT LEFT IS:

RECHECK THE DISTRIBUTOR INSTALLATION...USE A RATCHET TO TURN THE ENGINE...DON'T BUMP IT WITH THE STARTER (MAYBE IT'S KICKING BACK AND CONFUSING YOU)...REMOVE THE BATTERY CABLE FROM THE BATTERY WHEN YOU DO IT.......THIS MIGHT BE THE "ONE TIME" IT BUSTS OFF, WHILE YOU "UNINTENTIONALLY HAND CRANK IT".....WE DON'T WANT THAT!

INSURE YOUR FIRING ORDER IS PLACED IN THE SAME DIRECTION THAT THE ROTOR BUTTON TURNS

SORRY!....I'M SORTA SPENT!

IF YOU HAD A CJ, WE'D BE CRUISING RIGHT NOW!

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/1979-jeep-cj5-clutch-problems

DO LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU DO COME UP WITH...I LEARN TOO!

GOOD LUCK

THE MEDIC