Transmission will not shift into gear?

2004 HYUNDAI ACCENT
132,000 MILES • 4 CYL • MANUAL
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ANN SENN
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I have replaced the clutch slave, master cylinder, clutch plate, and cover plus release bearing. There is a slight leak that I'm ordering the hose for today in the hydraulic line shifter cables appear to be fine also the pedal has little resistance I've adjusted the pedal to no avail. Is there anything else I should be looking for besides replacing the hydraulic hose?
Jan 31, 2024 at 11:16 AM
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A week prior to this happening it was hard to shift into gear a couple times and stalled out twice while about to come to a stop. Also, if I start it in first gear it jumps forward but when it started in neutral, I cannot push it into any gear it just starts grinding.
Jan 31, 2024 at 11:30 AM
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Hi,

The clutch isn't releasing. Are there any leaks in the system? Is the clutch master cylinder full and do you see any leaks around the slave cylinder?

The problem certainly does sound like it is related to a hydraulic issue. However, you have already replaced everything. It is likely either the clutch Mster Cylinder or the slave.

If you remove the slave cylinder, does it move when the clutch is pressed?

Let me know.

Joe

See pic below.
Jan 31, 2024 at 6:29 PM
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ANN SENN
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I put in a new hydraulic line last night. There are no leaks, the master cylinder and the slave are new and I also installed a new clutch kit.
Feb 1, 2024 at 6:52 AM
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Also, noticed last night after replacing the line that when I tried to go into gear it feels like the shifter is off, so I'm assuming that would have to do with the shifter cables but not sure exactly what to do with that. I'm checking them today to see if there's any kind of break in the line or visual imperfections.
Feb 1, 2024 at 6:54 AM
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I do recall the bushing looking worn where it attaches to on the linkage, I don't know how big a deal that is but wanted to mention it.
Feb 1, 2024 at 6:55 AM
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Referring to your question, what move are you asking if I remove this slave cylinder from the fork? Also on a side note, I do recall the bushing on the shifter cable looking worn where it attaches to on the linkage, I don't know how big a deal that is but wanted to mention it.
Feb 1, 2024 at 6:58 AM
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Here's the slave cylinder and then the linkage is on the second one.
Feb 1, 2024 at 1:09 PM
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Hi,

It appears to be doing its job. Try this. With the engine off, place the engine in gear with the clutch released and see if you can move the vehicle manually. If not, try the same thing with the clutch depressed to see if it is releasing.

If it is releasing, it could be a shift linkage issue. Have a helper shift through the gears while you watch to see if the linkage cables at the transmission are working correctly. There should be two cables on this vehicle.

Let me know.

Joe

PS: For some reason, the second picture you mentioned above didn't upload. Could you try that again?
Feb 1, 2024 at 6:45 PM
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That was the 2nd video I sent was the cables.
Feb 2, 2024 at 2:25 AM
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And do you mean physically push the car to see if it moves?
Feb 2, 2024 at 2:26 AM
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Hi,

Yes. See if it moves when it is in gear. If it does with the clutch released, the clutch isn't the problem. If you find it holds and doesn't release when you press the clutch, then we have an issue with the clutch. I'm trying to determine if the clutch is doing anything and if it could possibly be something other, like a damaged CV joint.

Let me know.

Joe
Feb 2, 2024 at 9:14 PM
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ANN SENN
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Okay.
Feb 3, 2024 at 7:18 AM
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Here's the other video.
Feb 3, 2024 at 7:27 AM
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Hello, we're on to something because I can move it in first third and 5th but I can't move it in second forth I didn't try reverse.
Feb 3, 2024 at 10:28 AM
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It pushes super easily in those gears, and it barely moves up from neutral to go into those gears now to go down into second fourth or reverse it's like an actual shift to go into first and third I only have to move it up like an inch.
Feb 3, 2024 at 10:29 AM
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I've looked at the cables the one bushing is a little worn but I wouldn't think enough to cause any harm there's no breaks and they seem to be pushing and pulling okay I mean just by hand I don't really know enough about it to say 100% that's the truth just seems so.
Feb 3, 2024 at 10:30 AM
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Hi,

It sounds like there is a shift cable issue. If you have the shifter exposed in the vehicle, check to make sure the cables are attached to the retainers and there isn't a linkage issue there. See pic below.

Let me know.

Joe

See pic below.
Feb 3, 2024 at 3:17 PM
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ANN SENN
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I found a broken bolt in the linkage under the hood. repairing it now to see if that slipping may have been the issue.
Feb 4, 2024 at 11:46 AM
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Hi,

I suspect you found the problem. I hope it takes care of the issue. Let me know how things turn out for you.

Joe
Feb 4, 2024 at 6:33 PM
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Can you tell me if this gets a bolt in it? I don't know if one's missing from it or what but it appears so the other side however has a fixed nut and what looks like the tip of what used to be a bolt but I am not sure.
Feb 7, 2024 at 6:44 AM
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Other side.
Feb 7, 2024 at 6:45 AM
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Hi,

I attached three pics below. The last pic I numbered. Number two, I believe, is where we are looking on your part.

Also, it appears a bolt broke. In your second picture, which is a welded nut to the part and you can still see the threads from the original bolt still there.

Let me know if this helps. Looking at the manual and then your pics, the orientation is different, so I had to spin the laptop in circles a few times to make sense of it. LOL

Take care,

Joe
Feb 7, 2024 at 4:07 PM
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ANN SENN
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I fixed that but it still won't shift. I thought for sure that was it.
Feb 7, 2024 at 5:21 PM
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Lol yes, I get mixed up on some diagrams the same way. I extracted the partial bolt out and put new one in but still something else.
Feb 7, 2024 at 5:24 PM
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Hi Ann, are the cable retainers holding the cables properly, not allowing them to move? Also, could you take a couple of pics of what you have and upload them for me to see?

Let me know what is happening at this point.

Thanks,

Joe
Feb 7, 2024 at 6:05 PM
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Sure. The cables are in there correctly I believe, I went off the pics.
Feb 8, 2024 at 12:53 PM
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So sorry for the delay, I was sick as a dog but here are the pictures.
Feb 10, 2024 at 2:03 PM
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So sorry for the delay I was sick as a dog but here are the pictures
Feb 10, 2024 at 2:12 PM
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Hi,

Sorry to hear you've been sick.

Everything looks good in the pics. When you try shifting, can you see movement in the cables at the transmission?

Joe
Feb 10, 2024 at 6:02 PM
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Yes, they seem to work correctly now . not sure if I told you when I push the car in gear it no longer rolls... that was the linkage issue that was fixed.
Feb 10, 2024 at 8:46 PM
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Excellent. I'm glad you got it resolved.

Thanks for the update and feel free to come back anytime in the future.

Take care,

Joe
Feb 11, 2024 at 2:42 PM
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It is not fixed; I'm just stating that that part seems to be working like it's supposed to I still can't shift into gear.
Feb 14, 2024 at 2:09 PM
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Are you able to shift it in and out of gears when the clutch is depressed and the engine running?

Let me know.

Joe
Feb 14, 2024 at 8:10 PM
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No, not at all, that's been the whole problem.
Feb 17, 2024 at 10:17 AM
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Hi,

If it feels normal when you shift and the engine is off, then it must be related to the clutch. With the engine off, place it in gear and depress the clutch pedal. Can you then move the vehicle? In other words, did the clutch disengage the engine and transmission?
Feb 17, 2024 at 6:39 PM
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Doesn't move.
Feb 19, 2024 at 11:05 AM
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Hi,

I went back and watched the slave cylinder operate. It appears to work correctly. Even if the transmission was internally locked, when you press the clutch, it should disengage and allow you to shift.

Take a look at the two pics below. When the clutch was replaced, did you inspect the clutch release fork? Is it reaching the release bearing to disengage the clutch? Something in there isn't doing what it is designed to do.

Let me know.

Joe

See pics below.
Feb 19, 2024 at 7:58 PM