Where is the vacuum blend door actuator location and replacement instructions?

2002 MAZDA TRIBUTE
160,000 MILES • 3.0L • V6 • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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The dash vents don't blow any air, only the defroster does. Blower motor is good and resistor is good. Defroster will blow hot or cold, whichever I have it set on. Was told to change the blend door actuator, but found there were two types; one that is a vacuum and one that looks like a small square with a switch. I found directions to change the small one, but I can't find the vacuum one.
Oct 28, 2020 at 12:40 PM
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Hi,

The blend air door isn't the problem. If you can change from heat to A/C, the blend door is good. If you can't change the airflow direction, the mode door actuator is the likely cause.

The airflow direction actuators (mode doors) are vacuum actuated. I was only able to find one pic from the manual which I attached below.

I circled the vacuum hose (number 1) in the pic.

Before you replace it, make sure there are no vacuum leaks which can cause the system to default to defrost. There should be a vacuum supply from the intake manifold of the vehicle which will route through the firewall into the controller.

If you can't locate it, disconnect the mode actuator vacuum, request air flow to change to the floor and see if there is vacuum to it. If there isn't, there is a leak before that point and the actuator is likely okay. If there is vacuum and it doesn't respond, the actuator is likely bad.

Let me know what you find or if you have other questions.

Take care,
Joe

Oct 28, 2020 at 5:13 PM
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STEVE W.
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If it will blow air and you can control the temperature but cannot get it to select the floor or dash that is the function/mode door actuator, not the blend door. Blend door controls temperature, function doors control air direction. Now in this case there are actually 4 different vacuum motors that control where the air goes. As the image says the default for them if the system loses vacuum is to switch to defrost and stay there. So I doubt the issue is the actuators but instead a vacuum leak that is causing the controls not to work. The main vacuum line for the controls comes off of the engine and over to the vacuum reservoir, then through a black line to a check valve and then through the firewall and to the back of the control head. It is a common thing for the lines to crack or the fittings to rot off and then the system stops working as it should. I would start at the intake manifold and check the vacuum lines from there to the vacuum canister. Then from it to the firewall. A quick test that might help you is to start the engine and shut off everything around you, then listen right next to the control head for a hiss indicating a vacuum leak. If you don't hear anything you can use a can of carb cleaner to spray a short burst towards the various vacuum lines and connectors under the hood wit the engine running. A sudden change in the engines rpm means you have a vacuum leak in that area. I suspect you will find the issue under the hood, if not then you will need to remove the heater control head to get to the back of it to test for vacuum there. For that you remove the center dash trim then the 4 screws that hold the control head in place. Once it is free locate the black vacuum line, it should have a good vacuum on it with the engine running at an idle.
Oct 28, 2020 at 5:37 PM
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Both answers are extremely helpful; now I can see the whole picture of where things are and what to check. I'll check for the vacuum leak first, then go from there. The part I ordered at least looks like what I'll need if it's not a leak, although both your replies seem to point to a leak. Thank you!
Oct 29, 2020 at 2:56 AM
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Almost has to be a leak, if it was one of the vacuum motors you would only lose that function, so you might have the floor vents, dash and outside air, or dash defrost and vent. But to lose everything and have only defrost it has to be a loss of vacuum. Inside the vacuum motors is just a diaphragm and a couple springs. Apply vacuum to one side and it moves that way, apply it to the other and it moves that way, or in this case with the loss of vacuum the defrost opens because the springs in the units move them to that position as the failure mode, that lets you still drive the vehicle and still get some heat but tells you that something is wrong. I actually like the vacuum systems better than the electronics as they are generally a lot easier to diagnose. You pull the control head and use a vacuum pump to test the actuator and listen for the hiss of a leak. The only drawback is that it can become a mess of spaghetti if you have one of the fancy dual control systems.
Oct 29, 2020 at 11:20 AM
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I'm hoping for the vacuum problem too. Now, the fun part is that I have no idea what or where the control head is or how to test the actuator. It sounds easy to do, but I still need some things spelled out for me when it comes to working on my car. I suppose I should mention that I'm an amateur at car wrenching; I'm a grandma who's only done a few simple repairs by myself. As long as I don't have to get under the car, I'm game to do it myself, just need real specific directions. And, as long as we're talking vacuum leak, I just got an engine code saying the car is running lean, so I know there's a vacuum leak in that system too. I don't suppose there's any chance this could all be one easy to fix leak?? And how do I find the leak that's causing air to get into the fuel?
Oct 30, 2020 at 2:36 AM
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A leak large enough to cause a code would likely be the same one causing the loss of the heater controls because the engine is getting air into a spot it normally doesn't. Something like a broken vacuum hose would easily do that. To find the leak is somewhat easy. Take a can of carburetor cleaner and spray it at the various vacuum lines under the hood with the engine running. The engine will rev up when it sucks the cleaner through the leak. Then just look in that area for the problem.
This will show you how it's done but not on your exact engine:
https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-an-engine-vacuum-gauge
Oct 30, 2020 at 5:40 AM
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Okay, I have a dumb question; I got a vacuum control motor for the panel vent airflow, but I don't know where it's located on the car. Is it under the hood or under the dash? I want to make sure I'm replacing the correct motor, but I need to find it first.
Nov 5, 2020 at 4:52 AM
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It is under the dash attached to the heater core case. There will be three of them in the same area. One opens the dash vents, one the floor and one the defrost. The one you want is the farthest back toward the seats on top. Circled in the image.
Nov 5, 2020 at 7:32 AM
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Thank you for guiding me through this; you've been very helpful. I'll let you know how it turns out.
Nov 6, 2020 at 4:19 AM
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Any chance you could tell me which part of the center console I have to remove? I'm really hoping the vacuum can be found behind the bottom brown one....
Nov 6, 2020 at 4:19 PM
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Hi,

If you are referring to the actuator, it is basically behind the glove box and to the left. It will be mounted on the HVAC box. Is that what you are referring to?

Joe
Nov 6, 2020 at 6:22 PM
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The three you are looking for are on the left side of the case behind the dash, If you use a light and look up under the dash from the foot well you should see the actuators. You should be able to get to them without removing anything unless yours has the trim cover under the dash.
Nov 6, 2020 at 8:09 PM
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Thank you Steve!! I was hoping I wouldn't have to remove anything.
Nov 7, 2020 at 8:37 AM
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Thanks for your response JacobandNicolas. The part I have to change is the vacuum motor that controls the dash vents.
Nov 7, 2020 at 8:40 AM
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Hi,

For some reason, I don't have it listed under a Mazda. However, here are the directions for a Ford Escape, which I believe is basically the same vehicle. I hope it helps.

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2002 Ford Truck Escape 2WD V6-182 3.0L VIN 1 SFI
Panel Vent Vacuum Control Motor
Vehicle Heating and Air Conditioning Air Door Actuator / Motor Service and Repair Procedures Panel Vent Vacuum Control Motor
PANEL VENT VACUUM CONTROL MOTOR
REMOVAL



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1. Remove the vacuum control motor.
1 Disconnect the vacuum line.
2 Remove the two screws.
3 Disconnect the vacuum control motor from the door lever.

INSTALLATION
1. To install, reverse the removal procedure.

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I hope this helps.

Joe
Nov 7, 2020 at 7:26 PM
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Thank you. I did try to replace it yesterday, but part I had ordered from Rock Auto didn't fit. It was listed as being for my car (but was the Ford Motorcraft version), but the mounting holes weren't in the same place as the part on my car, and the pin that attaches the vacuum line was too small; hose was way too loose. I'm having trouble finding the part.. no one seems to carry it. I guess I'm going to have to go to the dealer....
Nov 8, 2020 at 9:37 AM
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Hi,

What part number did you find? The idea they sent the wrong part is a concern. I tried to look up a part number but nothing was available.

Let me know if you have the part number, send it to me. I'll try to help.

Take a look at the attached pic and let me know if that looks like the correct part. If it does, here is where I found it.

https://www.carparts.com/details/Mazda/Tribute/Motorcraft/HVAC_Defrost_Mode_Door_Actuator/2002/ES/6_Cyl_3-dot-0L/MIYH1525.html

Take care,
Joe
Nov 8, 2020 at 4:33 PM
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The first picture below is the Motorcraft part I received from Rock Auto. The second picture is the part I removed from my car. You can see the problem.
Nov 9, 2020 at 4:50 AM
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STEVE W.
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If you apply a vacuum to the hose port does your old part move or does air just flow through it? Just want to verify the problem before you get lost trying to hunt down the part.
The one they sent you looks like the one for the defrost and floor vents. In looking at the parts book I don't see the other one listed but Ford or Mazda should be able to get it, the Escape is virtually the same vehicle with the same HVAC system.
Nov 9, 2020 at 7:01 AM
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I'll have to take it back off and check.
Nov 10, 2020 at 4:25 AM
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If you put it back on you can cheat a bit, cycle through the vent positions while you watch the actuators with the engine idling. if the other ones move as they should just swap the vacuum line off one of those to the questionable part. If it starts moving the problem isn't the actuator but probably the control head or the line to it. Another test would be to select the vents and pull the line off, put your finger on the line, can you feel a strong vacuum? If yes then it's the actuator, if no it's the controller or lines.
Nov 10, 2020 at 5:31 AM
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Thanks for the tips!!
Nov 11, 2020 at 4:36 AM
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STEVE W.
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You're welcome, If the testing shows you which parts are bad even better.
Nov 11, 2020 at 10:28 AM
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So, just giving you a belated update; the vacuum leak was found and fixed and now everything is working great. Thank you so much for all your help!
Dec 12, 2020 at 6:33 AM
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STEVE W.
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Great to hear, where was the leak?
Dec 12, 2020 at 6:44 PM
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Under the hood, middle of the car, back near the firewall, underneath everything. There was an elbow on a hose that had cracked. Don't remember what part the mechanic said it was under, but I would have never found it, can't see that far down into the car.
Dec 13, 2020 at 4:18 AM
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STEVE W.
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That's how they like to hide. Makes it so you can't hear the leak. Good to hear it wasn't something worse. Thank you for the update and for using 2CarPros.
Dec 13, 2020 at 1:07 PM