Upper oil pan

2002 KIA SEDONA
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SLAB9
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Once separated from the block, pan by torque converter hangs down but will not separate from bottom of engine.
Apr 11, 2018 at 1:01 PM
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Good afternoon.

Can you post a picture for me of what you see?

Roy
Apr 11, 2018 at 1:25 PM
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I do not know how. I have iPhone 6.
Apr 11, 2018 at 1:27 PM
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take a picture and upload it to this post.

Roy
Apr 11, 2018 at 1:29 PM
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Pan hangs down but will not release from area by torque converter.
Apr 11, 2018 at 1:30 PM
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Okay, did you remove the cover, if there is one, for the converter?

Roy
Apr 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM
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Trying to remove upper oil pan. It hangs down but it appears that a lip of the pan extends into the transmission bell housing and is caught there. Wondering if I have to create gap between engine and transmission to release upper oil pan. I hope not. Thanks
Apr 11, 2018 at 1:37 PM
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Are all the bolts removed for the pan?

Is there a cover on the torque converter that can be removed?

I really wish you could provide me a picture so I see what you see.

Roy
Apr 11, 2018 at 1:39 PM
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Torque converter cover removed. Did photo display?
Apr 11, 2018 at 1:39 PM
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Pan bolts removed, pan separated from block. Pan hangs down but will not release from transmission side.
Apr 11, 2018 at 1:41 PM
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No photo came up.

can you move the pan forward to get the pan to clear?

Roy
Apr 11, 2018 at 1:45 PM
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Sent photo, did you receive?
Apr 11, 2018 at 1:45 PM
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Crankshaft prevents forward and rear movement.
Apr 11, 2018 at 1:47 PM
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Okay, again, is the a cover you can remove at the bottom of the converter to allow the pan to drop?

No photo.
Apr 11, 2018 at 1:51 PM
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It is a small window that allows access to torque converter bolts.
Apr 11, 2018 at 1:53 PM
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Crankshaft is housed in oil pan preventing any side motions only down and lip of pan extends into transmission bell housing prevents pan to drop.
Apr 11, 2018 at 2:00 PM
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I think I understand what you are suggesting. Not as much work as separating engine from transmission. Thanks
Apr 11, 2018 at 2:07 PM
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Okay, I see a bracket that looks like it is blocking it from coming down. remove that bracket.

Roy
Apr 11, 2018 at 2:09 PM
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The bracket in this case is actually the bottom of oil pan allowing it to bolt to transmission housing.
Apr 11, 2018 at 2:15 PM
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In the photo it shows to be bolted to the bell housing?

Roy
Apr 11, 2018 at 2:16 PM
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The two 10 mm facing down lock pan to block. Releasing them allows pan to separate from block. Pan drops half an inch or so but no further .
Apr 11, 2018 at 2:22 PM
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I will send a photo of it hanging .
Apr 11, 2018 at 2:24 PM
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Okay.
Apr 11, 2018 at 2:26 PM
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Pinch point is created by angle of transmission to engine and by crankshaft bracket. Looks like creating gap between transmission and engine is only option. Thanks for your help.
Apr 11, 2018 at 4:08 PM
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You are welcome.

Roy
Apr 11, 2018 at 4:11 PM