Engine Not running

1990 BMW 525I
200,124 MILES • 2.5L • 6 CYL • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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ONALO
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My car will not start when cranked because I noticed the following:
(1) The spark plugs will not produce light when cranked.
(2) The pump fuse does not transmit current thereby making it unable to supply fuel. But when directed with other fuse line that has current, it pumps constantly without starting when cranked, since the spark plugs will not produce spark light.
(3) What could be responsible for the above failure?
Oct 14, 2018 at 2:11 PM
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STRAILER
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Hello,

This sounds like the crankshaft angle sensor is not working. Here is the location so you can change it out.

Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know what happens.

Cheers, Ken
Oct 16, 2018 at 10:55 AM
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ONALO
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Thanks I sincerely appreciate it. In fact I have experienced this before and hope to repeat it again you have advised and get back to you as soon as I get it replaced.
Oct 16, 2018 at 1:31 PM
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STRAILER
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Please do, I want to get it running for you.
Oct 17, 2018 at 9:37 AM
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ONALO
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Ooh yeah. I will.
Thanks for your candid concern.
I remain appreciative.
Oct 17, 2018 at 9:53 AM
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ONALO
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Everything is okay now. Thanks a million.
Oct 10, 2019 at 8:20 AM
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You're welcome !
Please feel free to use us again in the future.

Danny-
Oct 10, 2019 at 5:54 PM
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DEE1975
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that is was working good .tried to start it one day an it would not do anything
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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If its not coming from the security system could be the starter, clutch switch, ignition switch , battery condition and connections
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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DODGEMATTHEW72
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i'm not getting any spark to the plugs.I changed the rotor,the coil,plugs,and wires. I'm getting power to the coil thats why i started to change everything one at a time.what could be wrong with this please help?
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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Check and test the motronic control unit and engine speed/reference sensor
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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DODGEMATTHEW72
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thank you for the advice will try and get back to ya in a day or so.Thank you help again for the
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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Just standing in for Doc Hagerty as an assistant in BMW's he'll be in by the time you come back-Good Luck
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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525IGIVEUP
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bought this car 5 years ago with 87k and I love it. I pound out a lot of miles for a living and it has been extremely tight until last winter. It does not want to start under 25-30 degrees and I hesitate to pump the foot feed on a fuel injected engine for fear of flooding it out.
BMW mech. says there is no "cold weather start" sensor on this model - so that's apparently out even if I coud find it. Suggestions/identification of related parts appreciated.
Yesterday (10 degrees actual temp) I finally got it running by holding the foot feed halfway down and using jumper cables. It ran rough and I assumed that I had gotten a plug wet with too much fuel. I let it run for 20 minutes and shut it off for an hour. Once it starts it'll restart the rest of the day. It restarted just like clockwork but still ran rough - and I am showing a "low coolant temp" light that has never appeared in the last 110k. Coolant temp light on initial start not the restart.
HELP NEEDED - and don't worry about hurting my feelings. I never claimed to be a mechanic, but R&Ring parts doesn't scare me - as long as I know I have the right part in the first place; guessing with these things gets expensive in a hurry
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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IS this a case of it cranking at a normal speed and not starting?

OR is it turning over (cranking) slowly?
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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525IGIVEUP
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normal speed
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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Okay so a jumper cable will make no difference unless you run it down.

We need to find if this is a loss of spark or fuel first to get a direction to go in.

When it is cold, spray some ether or carb cleaner into the throttlebody and then crank it. Does it start?

If it does fire we are on track for a lack of fuel path.
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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525IGIVEUP
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It's been in the single digits here for about a week and I have not messed with it since I last jumped it. The temps will be up next week and I will be more inclined to "play" mechanic. I am leaning toward a spark/fuel problem also and have the ether on hand to see what happens.
I let it run the other day for about 20 minutes because once it starts it will light the rest of the day. I changed out the plugs last year due to this same situation and it lit right up. I put in the high dollar multi-electrode plugs but that doesn't mean they're still all good. It ran really rough, but it ran the other day. I stopped there before I really screwed it up. I will pick up some new plugs in the event I have fouled out one or more by putting too much fuel in to try to start it.
I am by no means a mechanic but I have pulled and rebuilt motors before - but that was forty years ago. I am totally at a loss with the new fuel injection configurations (mechanical, electronic, combos). I may have a bad injector but I don't know how to test them or if I even can on my own. My economic situation has changed also with the "new" economy and that puts the BMW dealer out of the equation.
I will get back with you next week and probably make more sense by then. For now I really appreciate the moral support and having someone with some sense to point me in the right direction. We bought this car in '05 with 87k on it. I have put 110k on it with no problems, I do my own oil changes. Beyond that I have neglected what would be considered preventive maintenance because it has always ran strong and been really dependable. But it's been rode hard and put away wet once too often and it's time to pay the piper. I was planning to put some money into it this spring (run the valves, etc.) with a BMW mechanic on his own time when I lined one up with the friend I bought this from. I obviously didn't make it to spring. So let me get into some weather that isn't so brutal - no garage, and I will have more info/questions. Thanks again right now for just "being there".
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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Can be driving normally down the road and be wipers come on by them self the car cut off and will not start for a long time this has happened many times right now the car will not start I will go back later to try it again
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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I would definitely get caught up on the maintenance first. Cap, rotor, wires, fuel filter for sure.


I would stay away from the multi-electroded plugs. Bosch split fires have created there share of problems.
I would go toward either NGK or Autolite myself.

Wouldn't be surprised if that alone got you back running.
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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it sounds to me like id start by checking the wires in the steering column first as that's a common junction for both prolems. id look for pinched wires or bare spots in the wire that might be touching metal
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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525IGIVEUP
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Thanks for the heads up on the multi-electrode plugs - I'll snatch them out of my scooters also now. I will get the suggested maint. issues taken care of. How much of a pain is it to adjust the valves also - I understand BMW is famous for special tools. I've got one ticking and don't need it coming through the valve cover. Did that once on a 327/365hp with solids and it cracked a finned set of aluminum Corvette valve covers. And we all know what those are worth these days. That motor was in my first car '62 Impala SS that I gave $125.00 for in 1967 'cause the motor was locked up - would only turn a little either way. Turned out that one of the oil plugs across the back of the block had worked it's way out and was in one of the holes in the flywheel. The cars I should have kept~ Adjusting those valves with oil shooting out over the fenders was a pain in the @$$ though. They either didn't have the little covers for the rockers at the time - or I didn't know about them. My money is on the latter scenario.
Thanks gentlemen, I appreciate it.
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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I haven't dealt wioth the valves persopnally, but I did alert the BMW specialist here to your post.
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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That model(and others with the M-20 motor) have a problem with the wiring connector under the throttle body, down low up next to the block. It is round and black, about an inch and a half in diameter. Take it loose and inspect the connections and see if that does anything, I will be here if you need me. And Service Writer has given you the exact advice I would have, to the letter. This is just a model sensitive issue.
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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COACHWOODY
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1990 BMW 525i 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic 162K miles

Our usually problem free car would not start this morning. It was cold this morning but it has warmed up some and it STILL won't start. It is cranking strongly but won't kick over.
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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It may not be getting fuel or spark. Check the fuel pressure and pull a spark plug wire to see if the spark is blue and hot.
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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AUTOIGNORANCE
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Engine Mechanical problem
1989 BMW 525i 4 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic

Car was in garage for 2 months. I got a charged up battery and tried to start but it wont turn over.

The lights,meter all work fine. When i turn the ignition key to start the car the meter light turns dim but the car doesn't even turn over.

I can hear few clicking sounds when i try to start but thats it.

Any suggestions would be highly appreciated..

Thanks
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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The battery may not have taken the charge. It might need to be replaced. How old was it, more than 4 years old? If so replacement may be next.
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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AUTOIGNORANCE
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I used battery from a running car..It didnt do anything either.
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The starter might have a spot of corrosion in the solenoid, try tapping on the starter solenoid(a small hammer will do) whilst trying the key. It might need a new starter.
Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM (Merged)
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ONALO
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On which of the questions was this replied please? ?...
Oct 23, 2019 at 1:35 PM
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Is the engine cranking over or not? When you turn the key to the on position without cranking the engine over can you hear the fuel pump run in the tank for 5 seconds?
Oct 24, 2019 at 9:49 AM