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2003 PONTIAC SUNFIRE
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AMANDAJONES517
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The instrument cluster has gone out for the second time in my car. The first time the dealership repaired it, this time my husband decided to try his hand at it.
Everything works but the odometer will not light up.
Apr 24, 2010 at 7:02 PM
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BLUELIGHTNIN6
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hello and thanks for donating

you mean after he replaced it with a new cluster the odometer doesn't work? if so, it's because when replacing the cluster you have to reprogram the odometer. this is done by your local dealer as they have the computer equipment to do so..
Apr 24, 2010 at 8:21 PM
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AMANDAJONES517
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All of the Pontiac dealers are closed in my area now including the one I purchased it from... I guess it's really not a big deal since the gauges work and that's what counts... still annoying though after all the work he went through pulling the dash apart lol
Apr 24, 2010 at 9:21 PM
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there is no GM dealer at all in your area?
Apr 24, 2010 at 9:23 PM
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AMANDAJONES517
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GM will do it? Yes there is, in fact my husband was saying that he needs to bring our truck in for some recall... so all we should have to do is bring in the car with the original cluster showing the original mileage?

That will make my husband happy, he's been at his wits end he really shouldn't be working on cars lol
Apr 24, 2010 at 9:48 PM
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AMANDAJONES517
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Forgot to say thanks!
Apr 24, 2010 at 9:48 PM
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BLUELIGHTNIN6
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yup GM makes Pontiac so they can service it, just take the car over there so they can program it, not sure if you need old cluster or not but not a bad idea to bring it anyway.
Apr 24, 2010 at 9:50 PM
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AMANDAJONES517
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So we got it to the dealer and they said that the cluster was not good because they don't need to be reprogrammed unless they were built after 2005.
So my husband went to a u-pull and found another one
and it works great and reads the proper mileage.
Apr 28, 2010 at 12:53 PM
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great glad you got it fixed and thanks for that information.

thanks for using 2CarPros.com
Apr 28, 2010 at 12:54 PM
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MARIAHG
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I have had many problems with this car but it seemed to be doing fine. Yesterday I got an oil change and an emissions test. The shop closed after I left. I realized after leaving that my speedometer was not working, just showing at 0 no matter if I was going or not. The car also seems to jerk really hard when going from one gear to another. Could this have been caused by the oil change or emissions test somehow? Someone not knowing what they are doing and messing up? And would the speedometer and hard shifting be connected? Is it a hard fix/expensive fix?
Nov 13, 2019 at 5:57 PM (Merged)
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Hi MARIAHG,

The speedometer not working would definitely result in the transmission shifting hard and/or erratic.

Since you noticed this problem after the service job, it could be caused by the oil change or emission test if wiring connectors or connections were worked on.

It could also be coincidence that the sensor decided to quit at this very moment and the only way to find out is to go back to the service person who handled this job to have a check.

Costing would depend on what comes out of the diagnostics.

Let us know how it goes.
Nov 13, 2019 at 5:58 PM (Merged)
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BC_CAMPER
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Why does a speedometer stick at a random number no matter how fast or slow you are going?
When I was driving I noticed that the speedometer stuck at 17 mph and didn't move no matter how fast I sped up or how slow I slowed down. Even when I came to a complete stop it didn't move. Does this mean I need to have the speed sensor replaced or something else?
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RHALL77
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sounds like the stepper motors in the cluster are going bad. go to your dealer and have them take a look at it. they will perform a sweep test and see it it will respond. they will also check to see if the speed sensor is working correctly.
Nov 13, 2019 at 5:58 PM (Merged)
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HAL1046
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I find that when it rains the speedometer acts up and find that it takes a delay to shift could this be the speed sensor thank you
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RASMATAZ
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Could be the vehicle speed sensor-which is the one that tell the computer the governor pressure also the throttle positon sensor for the throttle pressure and also the coolant temperature sensor for the OD operation
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HAL1046
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the tps senser was new 7 months ago so the speedometer jumping around might be caused by these other sensers then the speed senser where is that located it seems that might be the one I am just wondering if there is water geting in to it some where thank you
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RASMATAZ
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Lets tackle the vehicle speed sensor 1st
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HAL1046
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and that is where
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RASMATAZ
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The VSS on rear of transaxle
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DOUG 57
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Transmission problem
2004 Pontiac Sunfire 4 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic

Speedometer is freezen at 220 km.and will not go back to zero WHY?
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HAL1046
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I do not know who you are but these three or four word quotes using words like vss tell me squat
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BLUELIGHTNIN6
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Is 220 kmh the top out for the speedometer? You can try disconnecting battery and reconnecting after a few minutes, this will reset the gauges. It will also reset your radio stations though so be sure you have them written down if you have any preset...
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I'm an expert in here

Look at my 1st post then you'll know what is a VSS furthermore I request you do a refund I don't need this Bye and Good luck I tried helping
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DOUG 57
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I tried to disconnect battery it is still at 220km
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BLUELIGHTNIN6
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If equipped, is the tachometer (RPM gauge) working and is transmission shifting fine? Get a magnet and stick it in front of the speedometer needle, very slowly drag it back to the 0 mark.
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