check transmission light on and cannot change gear it only stuck on fifth? Error code p1c9d?

2017 JEEP LIBERTY RENEGADE
35,000 MILES • 1.4L • 4 CYL • TURBO • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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Sometimes i travel a long way after parking and turn on again to back home check transmission light on and cannot change gear it only stuck on 5th. I'm back home with check transmission light on and parked it for one day then try to turn on it again its work normally and no error no check transmission. So, what happened?
Jul 15, 2022 at 7:04 AM
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It sounds like the TCM is going out or the input shaft speed sensor is not working correctly. For this problem you can get a CAN scanner from Amazon for about $30.00 here is a video to show you how. This can tell more of what's going on than a regular code reader.

https://youtu.be/u-4syLc-ifQ

Here is a scanner link:

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Here are the instructions on how to replace the TCM and input shaft speed sensor in case this is what comes up in the diagrams below. Also, I have included the transmission wiring diagrams so you can see how the system works. Also, because the TCM is mounted with the electrical connector pointing upwards I have seen water get into the connector causing corrosion which can cause all kinds of issues. Remove the connector to check.

Check out the diagrams (below). Let us know what happens and please upload pictures or videos of the problem.



Jul 15, 2022 at 6:03 PM
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Can i contact you on whatsapp or messenger please?
Jul 16, 2022 at 12:09 AM
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Error code p1c9d.
Jul 16, 2022 at 12:10 AM
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We like to keep all conversations on the site so others can benefit from it. The code P1C9D is for the Gear Shift Position Sensor which is in the shift lever. Here is the location so you can check out the connections and connector. Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know what happens.
Jul 16, 2022 at 11:05 AM
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Can you send pics of location in c635 transmission?

This sensor location above transmission or attached to valve body?
Jul 16, 2022 at 4:57 PM
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The sensor is attached to the gear shifter itself.
Jul 17, 2022 at 10:39 AM
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This one ?
Jul 17, 2022 at 5:23 PM
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Bro, i tried to drive the car today it work normally and no error.

This car will make me mad.
Jul 18, 2022 at 5:47 AM
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It is hard to say from the picture the part would need to be removed and matched up, also the switch problem could be intermittent or had a dirty contact and will be okay now. Sometime dirt or dust can get down inside switch and cause an intermitted problem.
Jul 18, 2022 at 10:19 AM
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Okay. so, i have to go to mechanic ask him to clean sensors belong to transmission, right?
Jul 18, 2022 at 4:43 PM
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The mechanic told me today he can't replace 2-4 sensor because its sometimes work and 2 times make error i told recheck transmission from inside and clean everything then fill new fluid if an error happened again, we will replace the sensor 2-4 gear shift.

What's your onion?
Jul 19, 2022 at 4:03 AM
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Yes, it is working okay run it, if it acts up again lets change the switch out as per the trouble code.
Jul 19, 2022 at 11:22 AM
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This error happened in March first time then happened for 5 days second time between two times i travelled by the car eight times every time 100-200 KM without error.
Jul 19, 2022 at 10:06 PM
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Pro i travelled again today 150 km then take rest two hours one the way to back home after 60 km checked transmission soci stopped and disconnected the battery then connect it after 10 minutes but appear a lot of error like hand brake and traction system so i feel its battery issue.
After i arrived at home i re-disconnected and connected the battery. Everything is good and no check transmission!

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Jul 20, 2022 at 4:25 PM
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You are resetting the system when the battery is disconnected so it must be a soft code and a intermittent error. You can try spraying contact cleaner inside the switch to see if that helps.
Jul 21, 2022 at 10:29 AM
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Which switch do you mean?
I measured the battery and alternator all is okay today.
Can i clean the wiring harness of valve body by electric cleaner?
Jul 22, 2022 at 5:32 AM
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Three mechanics opinions were to replace the valve body (hydraulic shift actuator), but i can't because it cost more than $2,000.00 and i can't spend this money on the car to repair and maybe it get new errors again.
Jul 22, 2022 at 5:54 AM
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In the switch near the gear shift lever not the valve body. Check out the diagrams in the post above.
Jul 22, 2022 at 5:48 PM
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Update: mechanic told me its 2-4 gear sensor position so i need full hydraulic shift actuator or replace the valve body conductor plate.

Full hydraulic shift was so expensive $2,100.00.

Can you tell me how can i get a new conductor plate? From where can i buy it it's part inside valve.
Jul 23, 2022 at 6:04 PM
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I would try Ebay and if not, it will be from the dealer. Here is what the manual says about the conductor plate. Diagrams below.
Jul 24, 2022 at 11:56 AM
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I want to ask if 2-4 gear sensor position is bad why it work normally and error after 100 km move?

I want make try to disconnect all cable from the hydraulic shift actuator clean it and connect again may be it fix the error

What do you think?
Jul 24, 2022 at 2:25 PM
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Is gear shift position sensor inside valve body on the conductor plate ???
Jul 25, 2022 at 6:40 AM
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Yes, I would clean the contacts in the switch by the steering column. I don't think there are contacts inside the shift plate, I might be wrong though.
Jul 25, 2022 at 1:05 PM
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The mechanic asked me if i changed the release bearing before, i said yes because there was a leak, then he asked me if i replaced original new i told him I'm not sure if it was original or not. so, he told me maybe it's not work good and sometimes stuck and appear error code.
(Mechanical out of range on 2nd-4th actuator)
P1D74
And p1c9d (2nd-4th gear sensor position signal incorrect)

What is your opinion bro?
Jul 29, 2022 at 10:42 AM
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Those are pictures of a throw out bearing for a stick shift car?
Jul 30, 2022 at 12:50 PM
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My mechanic found that the old mechanic who worked in it before making big problems by adding glue material to hold the bearing he decided to rebuild it again.
Jul 30, 2022 at 3:44 PM
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Oh man, that doesn't look good, let me know, I feel we are getting closer to fixing it.
Jul 31, 2022 at 1:33 PM
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He replaced the k1 bearing and this long shaft inside the transmission because the stupid mechanic before put some glue and internal oil seal damaged and there is some oil on the clutch, he told me he thinks after rebuilding the transmission everything will be good and valve body will not need replacing.
Aug 2, 2022 at 9:12 AM
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Test today good he sent to me video but i told him try to drive like 1 hour then take rest 30 mins and turn on the car again check if still there p1c9d or not .. he told me also the clutch not 100% good but its 60% because there was internal oil leak but no problem we can replace it later.
Aug 2, 2022 at 7:32 PM
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He told me since 1 hour it appear 2-4 gear sensor position so valve body must be replaced.
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What's your opinion?
Aug 3, 2022 at 3:21 AM
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Yep, that's what I kind of thought also so I am glad to hear the confirmation. Let us know if that fixes it please.
Aug 3, 2022 at 11:00 AM
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I think i will go to dealer because all outside mechanics i can't trust them.

I think its transmission range sensor.
Aug 3, 2022 at 11:29 PM
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Yep, that could be the problem.

Here is the part number:

Range Sensor 68197332AA $215.00

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Aug 4, 2022 at 6:43 PM
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We tried another valve body it was for fiat x500 car move normally but check transmission light on again, but gear still move normally up and down shift normally

In old valve body when check transmission light on gear go to limp mode that is the different.

In two valves case the same code : p1c9d-00

The mechanic told me he will try valve body for renegade tomorrow, and he also told me there is short cut he tries to find so he need time to get it.

Note : he checked other sensors all work good.
Aug 5, 2022 at 5:03 AM
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Yep, it sounds like a wiring issue, let me know if you need wiring diagrams. Let me know what happens.
Aug 5, 2022 at 6:01 PM
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Replaced valve body and drive 120 km back to home everything good and test today 50 km was good. also,
Valve body with warranty 3 months.
Aug 6, 2022 at 5:25 PM
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Glad you could get it fixed, that kind of problem can be tough. Please use 2CarPros anytime we are here to help.
Aug 7, 2022 at 8:59 AM
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Same problem today bro, i drove for 30 minutes inside my city suddenly check transmission and start/stop light on also, but when i accelerated car does not respond to move, then i turned it off rest 30 minutes with take off battery cable(-) then i drove it home.

I talked to someone he told me u have electric problem in the wiring harness

What can i do?

I talked to the mechanic who replaced the valve body, he said try to go home and he will tell me to disconnect (start/stop sensor) he thinks the problem from it.

What do you think?
Aug 10, 2022 at 8:43 PM