no power when u turn key on

1980 JEEP CJ7
70,000 MILES
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BUSTER420
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my jeep died and when i went to restart it i had no power. battery is good , starter is good. i replaced the ignition switch and module but still no power. some lights stay on in the stereo when key is off but when u turn on the lights go off
May 9, 2013 at 11:31 AM
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How did you determine that the battery was good?
May 9, 2013 at 11:48 AM
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HMAC300
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checkthe fusible links off of starter relay seepic
May 9, 2013 at 12:24 PM
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BUSTER420
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I checked the battery.
May 9, 2013 at 12:50 PM
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BUSTER420
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i checked it
May 9, 2013 at 12:59 PM
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this is a dumb question but what does the starter relay look like
May 9, 2013 at 1:02 PM
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pic enclosed. fusible link shold be attached where arrow is.
May 9, 2013 at 1:06 PM
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The question was HOW.
May 9, 2013 at 1:07 PM
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BUSTER420
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i took it in and had it checked. i know its good.plus i took battery out of my other car and tried it. same thing no power
May 9, 2013 at 1:38 PM
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If it's an automatic, test the neutral safety switch, if it's a manual, test the clutch switch.
May 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM
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BUSTER420
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where might the clutch switch be located
May 9, 2013 at 1:57 PM
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At the clutch pedal under the dash.
May 9, 2013 at 2:25 PM
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BUSTER420
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i think the coil might be bad but that wouldnt keep me from getting power to everything would it. plus wherr would the ignition relay be
May 9, 2013 at 2:36 PM
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BUSTER420
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ther is no switch at all located on my clutch pedal anywhere under the dash
May 9, 2013 at 2:41 PM
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mine doesnt look anything like that but i knowbi have power to the relay but not to the coil. that wouldnt cause me to have no power at all would it
May 9, 2013 at 3:05 PM
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do i need to unhook them before i test
May 9, 2013 at 3:10 PM
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just probe the wire where they connect then follow it down to where they connect on wire and if you have power at both ends then they are good. what engine do you have cause I looked up your year and that is what is supposed tobe there unless you have the solenoid on the starter. or has been changed. if the test light is bright at both ends or if volt meter shows same reading at both ends then links are good and yes it could cause no power to coil. if you look at diagram you shold have power to coil form relay on red t wire when cranking it can be a module problem as well though but you need to check this out and return with engine size if not able to get coil power.
May 9, 2013 at 3:23 PM
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i just replaced ignition switch and module. i cant seem to get power at the coil though. i have an inline 6
May 9, 2013 at 3:27 PM
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the coil being bad wouldnt cause me to have no power at all would it
May 9, 2013 at 3:29 PM
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heres a diagram for your system recheck your work we have no idea what you did to this when you replaced parts so can't give a good answer. this is the way it's supposed to b e hooked up.
May 9, 2013 at 3:31 PM
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no it would still have power
May 9, 2013 at 3:32 PM
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CJ MEDEVAC
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OK ............SO LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH NOT ANSWERING ME AT THIS POST.....LIKE THE 1ST TIME???

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/wont-start-39866

DO YOU HAVE A VOLTMETER?

YOU SHOULD HAVE A SOLENOID LIKE JUST LIKE THIS (SEE PIC 1) ....IF YOU DON'T, THE JEEP HAS BEEN MODIFIED IN SOME MANNER..............SEEN US SOME PICS OF WHAT YOU DO HAVE

SEE THIS LINK

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/jeep-cj7-1980-jeep-cj7-startercellenoid

YOUR TURN

THE MEDIC
May 9, 2013 at 3:46 PM
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BUSTER420
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when i replaced switch it was just unplug and unbolt, put new one back on top of colum and bolt down then plug back in. with the module, same thing, unplug and unbolt and replace. no wires got messed with or changed. regardless of no power at coil, i need to know why i have no power at all. im assuming it would have to be in my ignition. is there any wiring that goes to the ignition itself on a straight column, no horn just blinkers and hazzards
May 9, 2013 at 3:51 PM
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obviously you arenot understanding what i's suggested the first few times. I first said to check your fusible links, if you don 'tdo that then how can we help? if a fusible link is burnt you don't get power even if youget it one other place. you have made NOTHING as far as SAYING THE LINKis ok . My suggestion to you is to take this vehicle to someone who knows what they are doing so they will have it right there instead of contstant emails back and forth. with one person doing something and another not knowing what the heck you did. take it to a pro and quit screwing around with it as you are completely lost.
May 9, 2013 at 3:58 PM
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if u werent such a know it all u would understand me. everything has been checked just like u told me to. this isnt my first time working on my vehicle u pice of !!?@'!. evrything to the coil is good. tell me oh mighty one, whats next
May 9, 2013 at 4:02 PM
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plus u already said the coil being bad would not cause me to lose complete power. thats my issue at the moment
May 9, 2013 at 4:05 PM
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mine is way different and smaller. got good juice at it though. but im not getting any to my coil. that would not keep me from getting power at all would it ?
May 9, 2013 at 4:11 PM
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first you say you have no power to coil now you say you do which is it? check resistance of pickupcoil in dist it should be 400-600 ohms violet and orange wire leads. follow the things I've sent in pics. I have no further suggestions.one other thing the cars when made by American motors had the crappiest systems andwere always failing also check for a bad ground as AM had a huge ground problem which is why there would be no power but you say you have . I have no further suggestions you might try he jeep guy on here if I thinkabout it i'll send this to him.......
May 9, 2013 at 4:17 PM
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thanks for suggestion,obviously just a miss communication. like i said before maby not clear enuff. when i turn key on there is no power to any guages or stereo, anything like that. but with the key on i have power to the volt relay altenator and that stuff but not in the coil. u said i should still have power everywhere else though. thats why im stumped
May 9, 2013 at 4:43 PM
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have you still even bothered to check your fusible links? I bet not even cj isn't getting any answers and he also sent you the correct soleonoid pic an like I figure this jeep has been modified and hard telling what has been done to it. send cj the pics you want help fine we can't fix it over the computer for you.
May 10, 2013 at 5:50 AM
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CJ MEDEVAC
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OH YEAH!!!!

CAUGHT HIM WITH HIS 1ST QUESTION!!!

NEVER RESPONDED

REPLIED AGAIN AT ONE OF HIS OTHER "NEW" SAME QUESTIONS

I SAW IT ON THE SCREEN WHEN IT SUBMITTED

NOW IT'S GONE?????????????????????????

BETTER STILL...............I GET NOTIFIED HE ANSWERED AT THE OTHER "NEW" QUESTION

.................................BUT I'M NOT THERE ANYMORE!!!

..............................DARN GREMLINS!..........NOT THE AMC KIND WITH THE BEAUTIFUL 258 ENGINE EITHER

THE "GHOST" MEDIC!
May 10, 2013 at 11:43 AM
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BUSTER420
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sorry fellas ,gave up for the day, getting to mad. the coil being bad is secondary now. i need to know why i dont have power at all. no wy to send pics at the moment or i would. after everything ive done, ive come to the conclusion that i have a bad ground somewhere, thats the only rason i can come up with for not having any power at all. if this helps, like i said before when key is off i have lights coming on in stereo but it wont turn on, with key in on position those lights turn off but still nothing. electrical is not my strong point. mechanical no problem , but u have to learn somewhere
May 10, 2013 at 12:09 PM
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CJ MEDEVAC
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SEE THIS.............ACTUALLY "DO" WHAT IT SAYS, WITH THE CONNECTIONS !

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/1996-chevrolet-tahoe-wont-start-sounds-dead-battery-jumpbox-get-same-reults

HAVE YOUR BATTERY TESTED AT AN AUTO PARTS STORE....THIS IS USUALLY A FREE SERVICE


LOOK AT THIS TOO.........THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO CHECK...........SEE "MY INCREDIBLE ANSWER" IN HERE

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/1993-ford-mustang-solenoid-wiring

STILL NO LUCK???............READ AND DO MY 2 LINKS AGAIN !!!!!

RETURN WITH A GRIN!!!!!

LET US KNOW WHAT IT WAS

...........OR GIVE US ANYTHING ELSE YOU DISCOVERED

THE MEDIC
May 10, 2013 at 8:53 PM