No power to fuel pump relay when key switch on?

1998 GMC C1500
250,000 MILES • 5.7L • V8 • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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I have a 1998 GMC. I put a 1997 engine and transmission in. (And trying first start) If I jump the relay pump runs engine runs coincidence tach does not move on dash and volt gauge is low like 10 or 11 volts. But that is what I noticed. Back to main problem ECM not sending power to relay I thought immobilizer but security light on dash is not on. so any suggestions would help me a lot.
Jan 20, 2025 at 6:03 PM
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I would make sure you have the battery to block ground and then the block to chassis ground strap, because the engine and transmission are seated in rubber you must have the proper grounds. Do you have the MAF plugged in? The PCM must see engine rotate and air movement before it will turn the fuel pump on. We should run the codes to see if any are stored as well.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

Also check the IGN E fuse in the fuse panel under the hood, I have seen the fuel pump balance module go out on these trucks, here is the fuel pump wiring diagrams so you can see how the system works. Check out the images (below). Please let us know what happens.
Jan 21, 2025 at 1:06 PM
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the big 3 grounds are attached MAF is plugged in. when i bypass the relay, she runs good no check engine light etc. but also, RPM gauge does not move. Figured if the crank sensor was bad it wouldn't run at all. That is what is troubling the computer is not even sending a signal for the 2 sec prime. what all has to be satisfied for computer to do the 2 sec prime and of course send signal to engage relay.
Jan 21, 2025 at 1:47 PM
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The computer must see engine rotation which it sounds like it has part of that, the tach needs to work though, I would try unplugging the cluster. the tach might be shorted out. Also, I would unplug the MAF sensor so the comp will use the default value. If the MAF is not working, it will not show air flow when the engine is cranking so the computer will not turn the fuel pump on. Let me know.
Jan 22, 2025 at 8:48 AM
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Hooked up scanner computer shows 182 RPMs when cranking dash gauge still not moving but at least the ECM sees RPMs.
Jan 25, 2025 at 1:32 PM
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Also pin 30 on relay goes to fuel pump, right? If I ohm it, it goes to ground. the guy replaced the fuel pump, I wonder if it’s wired wrong at the tank.
Jan 25, 2025 at 3:11 PM
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Yes pin 30 goes to the pump which will ohm out to ground while still connected to the pump. While cranking does pin 30 have 12 volts, that is the test I would try.
Jan 26, 2025 at 9:41 AM
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No and I do not have power from the green/white PCM.
Jan 26, 2025 at 9:43 AM
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This would be power from the fuel pump balance module on the frame inside the left frame rail. (pink wire - while cranking).
Jan 26, 2025 at 9:48 AM
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What exactly would you like me to do?
Jan 26, 2025 at 10:14 AM
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I do not see a fuel pump balance module inside the frame rail near tank I see fuel filter.
Jan 26, 2025 at 11:18 AM
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Car Scanner ELM OBD2
Version: 1.114.11/1.114.11/iOS
DTC report
Connection profile: GMC OBD-II / EOBDDate: 1/26/2025 3:06:47 PM
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OBD-IIOBD-II
DTCs: 7
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P0740 [0x0740]
Torque converter clutch (TCC) solenoid - circuit malfunction
Status: Confirmed
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P0785 [0x0785]
Shift/timing solenoid - circuit malfunction
Status: Confirmed
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P1860 [0x1860]
TCC PWM Solenoid Circuit Electrical/ Transmission Transfer Case Contact Plate "D" Short Circuit To Battery
TCC PWM Solenoid Circuit Electrical
Status: Confirmed
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P1810 [0x1810]
TFP Valve Position Switch Circuit/ Transmission 4-Wheel Drive Low Indicator Short Circuit To Battery
TFP Valve Position Switch Circuit
Status: Pending
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P1718 [0x1718]
TFT Sensor In Range Failure High
Incorrect Neutral Gear Ratio
Status: Pending
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C2000 [0x6000]
Status: Pending
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P0099 [0x0099]
Intake air temperature (IAT) sensor 2 - circuit intermittent/erratic
Status: Pending
Jan 26, 2025 at 12:07 PM
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Any of these keep the PCM from firing the fuel pump relay?
Jan 26, 2025 at 12:08 PM
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I don't think so. Terminal 30 at the fuel pump relay, while the engine is cranking do you have 12 volts?
Jan 27, 2025 at 9:26 AM
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No I do not have power at 30.
Jan 29, 2025 at 7:55 AM
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Does this truck have two tanks or just one? Sorry there is some confusion with the wiring if you have duel tanks. There is a fuel pump pressure switch behind the distributor I would bypass to see if you get power to the pump. Org to gry wires together. Check out the images (below). Please let us know what happens.
Jan 29, 2025 at 8:49 AM
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Only one tank just a 98 c1500 extended cab 2-wheel drive.
Jan 29, 2025 at 9:08 AM
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It does have the oil pressure switch did it change from 97 to 98 because I put the drivetrain from a 97 in this 98 if it is a different pressure switch, I can take the one out of the old motor.
Jan 29, 2025 at 9:11 AM
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I would just jump the connector to see if that is the problem.
Jan 29, 2025 at 11:03 AM
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I will try that this evening. thanks for your help.
Jan 29, 2025 at 11:22 AM
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Sorry for the confusion with the dual tanks, let me know.
Jan 30, 2025 at 11:51 AM
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Okay, if I jump the gray and orange wires the fuel pump comes on without the key on.
Jan 31, 2025 at 3:09 PM
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Okay, with the wires jumped does the engine start?
Feb 1, 2025 at 10:00 AM
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I’m sure it will I’ll have to check when I get home probably in an hour or so If it does run the bad oil switch?
Feb 1, 2025 at 10:03 AM
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Yes it does run with those jumped.
Feb 1, 2025 at 1:24 PM
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Okay, I replaced the oil pressure switch it now works but do not have the 2 sec prime from computer.
Feb 1, 2025 at 3:02 PM
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It will not prime every time, so can you drive the truck now? I would let the truck sit and then it should prime.
Feb 2, 2025 at 8:52 AM