Codes p0302, p018, pO108, and pO113?

2013 HYUNDAI VELOSTER
75,000 MILES • 1.6L • 4 CYL • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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Okay, pulling codes p0302, p018 PO108 PO113. I have replaced all four ignition coils and spark plugs with OEM parts. I have also replaced the crankshaft and camshaft sensors, the MAP sensor. I've done a leak down test which came back fine had a little bit of oil consumption and some on the tips of the spark plugs but not much. I had just done an oil change 5 to 800 miles ago, so the oil is fine. I did do a spark test on each cylinder also and they were all fine parts that were replaced maybe two years ago include both of the fuel pumps the fuel filter the fuel injectors the purge valve I think that's it so not real sure where else to go. I'm going to put a new connector and wiring to the MAP sensor and the ECM was recently replaced as well, but the misfire is like a continuous misfire almost, so I'm not understanding why that's the way it is. there's new connectors on all four of the ignition coils as well and I checked and made sure they were all getting power and continuity was going to each one and the resistance is fine as well on all components I also cleaned out the throttle body and the inside of the intake manifold and it really didn't have much carbon build up in it I expected there to be more. There is a second camshaft sensor I'm also going to check that one today that one I did not replace I actually didn't realize there was a second one until I'd already ordered the other one which had quite a bit of oil on it as well I believe it should have been kind of see-through where the meshy part is and it was dark.
May 10, 2024 at 3:49 AM
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Codes were P0302, P0108 and P0113.
May 10, 2024 at 3:53 AM
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Hello, the codes setting, p0108 and p0113 are both related, I'll post a wiring diagram for you, but the cylinder 2 misfire code may not be related, where did you buy your parts from when trying to get rid of this misfire?
May 11, 2024 at 11:09 AM
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Is your check engine light blinking when it sets the misfire code? The other 2 codes are for the MAP sensor and intake air temp sensor which are combined into one sensor, so the sensor may have a bad ground, since the MAP sensor part is indicating a "Signal High" and the IAT part of the sensor is indicating a "Signal Low".
This is the OEM for the MAP/IAT sensor, with it unplugged, key On, engine Off. You should read 5volts across pins 2 and 4 with a multimeter set on DC volts. Thats the first check I would do.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-voltmeter
May 11, 2024 at 11:27 AM
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The MAP sensor is on the Throttle Body, just behind the throttle plates, since it measures intake manifold pressure. It's a 4-wire sensor. As for the misfire, if you have replaced the ignition coil, plug and fuel injector, that pretty much leaves, either there is a control problem with one of those components such as wiring. Or there is a compression issue. And a static, only cranking compression test may not always reveal the issue. If there is a valve sticking partially open at certain times, it can be difficult to catch. You can try pulling the spark plug out and putting a bore scope down the spark plug hole to take a look into the cylinder, to see if you notice anything that looks odd.
I would also like to see if your scan tool is counting misfires at a certain time, or under a certain engine load.
Also check if the engine oil smells like gas, if it's been misfiring for a while the oil will be diluted with gas, especially on a GDI system. The top of the intake valves also develop carbon build up excessively on these systems with the GDI injectors spraying directly into the cylinders and not into the intake which helps to clean the valves.
May 11, 2024 at 12:43 PM
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I removed the intake manifold and also the spark plugs and looked down in there they are really was not much carbon buildup I was surprised in the cylinders base or the intake valves.
May 11, 2024 at 10:27 PM
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I didn't mean to send that yet. I did however clean that that was in there. As far as map sensor it almost has to be something in the wiring, I'm going to check that also today I've checked the resistance and the continuity going to the ECM, but I'll check for a bad ground and the voltage. I'm going to switch around a couple of the injectors because I had an issue with cylinder two a year or so ago as well when I had my connectors changed, he switched one of them and it was melting the coils in cylinder two. Obviously that it's been fixed but I'm wondering if it could have caused damage or build up in the fuel injectors since it's just in the one cylinder.
May 11, 2024 at 10:30 PM
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That's unfortunate, you can swap the injector, or a quick test is to see if the control wire on the number 2 coil has a direct path to ground when the vehicle is off. Just disconnect the coil plug and do a continuity check to battery negative. With the 2 wire coils, when they short out, sometimes they burn the coil driver inside the ECM. I have seen that many times, and that's what happens, the new coils get really hot because they are on all the time, not being pulsed by the ECM under proper control. With that code setting, the ECM may be deactivating the fuel injector for the #2 to prevent Catalyst damage. But when the coil driver MOSFET (transistor) burns out, they will go straight to ground or open circuit inside the ECM. Most of time I see them just burn the transistor and it's a straight path to ground. I'm surprised these coils don't have a transistor inside them, you would expect by 2013 they would have gone over to a more advanced coil set up to prevent ECM damage.
Let me know if you need any other wiring diagrams.
May 12, 2024 at 9:39 AM
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I took injectors out and cleaned and tested them #2 was bad so had an extra one and replaced it along with a new gasket on the manifold. I'm going to check the MAP sensor wiring this morning.
May 13, 2024 at 6:09 AM
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Yikes, I'll check to coil continuity just to make sure, but I hope not... Just replaced the ECM.
May 13, 2024 at 6:12 AM
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Well, it sounds like your #2 injector was bad, does it still set the p0302 with a different injector in there?
May 13, 2024 at 12:48 PM
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It's not throwing a code but I'm thinking the replacement may be stuck open. I'm getting white smoke, and the car barely accelerates. Do you have the specs that I can compare to the live data? Maybe help pinpoint the issue don't think it's a blown head gasket not losing coolant but will check oil and check for bubbles with radiator cap off.
May 15, 2024 at 7:27 AM
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If you think a fuel injector is stuck open, pull up live engine data on your scan tool, and monitor the Fuel Rail Pressure data PID, it has to have one, this being a GDI system. If you can graph that data PID it would be best, then shut the vehicle off but turn the key back on, engine off so you can still see the live data and watch for the Fuel Rail pressure to drop off fast. that's a sign an injector is staying open mechanically. Now if the injector driver in the PCM is burned, and the injector control is constantly grounded, the injector will stay on constantly but only when the engine is running.
Here is the GDI injector operations diagram, you'll notice it states "Also the feed for 2 injectors comes from the same driver set" So power for the high side powers up 2 injectors, and most GDI injectors are Peak and Hold type, meaning they open the injector with a high voltage, and then pulse them with a lower voltage to keep them open. But you should be able to see the Fuel Rail data PID drop off quickly if one is staying open, check that first. Since you can't tap into these fuel rails due to the very high pressure, watching the data PID should help you figure out what's going on, a ton of white smoke sounds like one is staying open. The resistance spec for each injector is 1.5 Ohms. I'm looking for a fuel pressure spec, but it will be high, usually 500 to 2000psi for a GDI rail.
are there any other specs you want me to look for?
May 15, 2024 at 11:34 AM
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Are the MAP sensor codes coming back? Also look for the Long-Term and Short-Term Fuel Trims, (LTFT and STFT) see what those numbers are, they will be negative if there is an injector staying open. I would expect some sort of fuel trim code to set as well, did the white smoke start after replacing the one injector?
May 15, 2024 at 11:35 AM
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Here is the Fuel Rail pressure sensor voltage over pressure graph, so 4.5volts is 2,900 PSI. Very high pressure.
May 15, 2024 at 11:42 AM
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It is definitely leaking or stuck open in under 1min gas went from 140 miles till empty to 127 plus strong shell of gas and thick smoke.
May 16, 2024 at 6:12 AM
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Ordered new injectors should be in today. The pics are with the car running. The spark adv. Jumped up to 25 could that be from injectors because those and coils were replaced.
May 16, 2024 at 6:15 AM
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I made a collage because it would only let me upload one picture at a time and then I'd have to send them one by one.
May 16, 2024 at 6:16 AM
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Had no reading for short and long fuel trim?
May 16, 2024 at 6:17 AM
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Codes were 0302, 0300, 0108
Mf in 2, random mf, and map sensor one- which I'll address today while waiting for injectors.
May 16, 2024 at 6:27 AM
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There's no fuel trim data because the vehicle has a fuel system fault, see where it says OL-Fault, that's the fuel system staying in Open Loop operations due to the faults. This is a very basic scan tool and is only giving you global OBD2 data, it's not going to be much help. Your front Air/Fuel ratio sensor reading is extremely rich at -2.938ma. that should be close to 0 and the EQ_RATII should be close to 1. Being in OL (open loop) operation the PCM is only taking input data from a couple sensors, you need to know what the Fuel Rail pressure is. And you need to check the MAP sensor to determine what that fault is.
May 16, 2024 at 9:32 AM
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Watch the data PID FRP(kPa) when you turn the vehicle off. Turn the key right back to On, engine Off and watch that data PID, that's the Fuel Rail Pressure data, if it drops off quickly then an injector might be leaking, but the MAP sensor reading of 255kPa is too high, does that change if you push on the gas pedal when idling in Park? It should go much lower.
Can you change the scan tool setting also so the FRP is reading in psi and not kPa? But really you need to monitor that 4210kPa data PID, if it does drop off with the key On, engine Off, then it may not be an injector, check that first. And if you're changing GDI injectors make sure you pull the fuel pump relay for the pump in the gas tank and relieve the pressure first before cracking the high-pressure lines open. There's 1000s of pounds of pressure there, and you can get hurt very easily.
May 16, 2024 at 9:42 AM
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Yes, I changed one the other day so I made sure there was no pressure in it.
May 16, 2024 at 12:43 PM
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Yes I changed one the other day so I made sure there was no pressure in it.
May 16, 2024 at 1:31 PM
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The fuel rail pressure dropped drastically as soon as I had the key on engine off. MAP sensor didn't change when i revved the gas though. I just replaced that maybe it's a bad sensor.
May 16, 2024 at 1:33 PM
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And I changed it so the MAP sensor now reads 37.
May 16, 2024 at 1:34 PM
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so, the MAP is no longer setting any codes? or you haven't gotten to that yet? It's difficult with a MAP reading in kPa, instead of either psi or inHg. But I believe a MAP should read around 27 kPa at idle if I have that correct. But that will also vary depending on where you live, higher or lower than sea level, since the MAP reads absolute pressure. The Fuel Rail Pressure test is a good test when dealing with GDI systems, since you can't just tap into the fuel rail like a conventional system and do an injector leak down test, you probably could with a more advanced scan tool, but not a basic global OBD2 one. The PCM may have stopped reading data from the MAP since it was so far off, but the Fuel System status should go to CL Closed Loop now when it gets to operating temperature, and that OL Fault should disappear.
One other thing is change your oil ASAP, if the fuel issue is taken care of and no more smoke, the oil is highly contaminated with gas now, so change that and the filter before you drive much.
Hopefully the Catalytic Converter didn't melt down during all this, you will get a p0420 if that's the case.
May 16, 2024 at 1:50 PM
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I watched the second O2 sensor the downstream to make sure that it fluctuates a little bit to know my catalytic converter was okay I have not got to the MAP sensor yet and yes it does throw codes again for that it did 0108 and 0113 and then the 0302 on the last scan. I'm in Ohio. It's about 65 70° today. I did a leak down test and all the cylinders a week or so ago and they all were under 20%.
May 16, 2024 at 3:56 PM
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Yeah, the rear 02 should stay pretty steady, around 0.6-0.7v roughly, I'm not sure how difficult it is to get to the spark plugs on this engine, but if the #2 is leaking down that fast, that cylinder will be flooded with gas. Another check you can do, after the engine is off and the pressure leaks down, if you can pull the #2 plug out, disable fuel by pulling the fuel pump relay or fuse, unplugging the injectors, or the vehicle might have Clear Flood mode if you hold the gas pedal down to the floor and crank, some will disable injectors during clear flood mode. Then put a rag over the open spark plug hole and crank it, see if a ton of gas comes out of the cylinder. That much fuel in the cylinder is going to lower compression as well due to cylinder wash.
I'd be curious to see how it runs with the MAP sensor unplugged. Since I don't see a MAF sensor, some systems will default to known good data when some components fail like this. I don't know if it would do that for a sensor or not, sometimes on GM vehicles it will for failed modules. Here's the OEM injector part number if needed. How is the #2 coil doing, not over heating at all?
May 17, 2024 at 12:45 PM
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I actually only got a code 0304 since I replaced injectors. I have gas leaking so assuming it's in cylinder 4. It's not at the rail. So, I get to take it all apart again. New MAP sensor comes today. I'll test the could and plugs again after I find the leak. My gage to empty was counting down like new years Eve lol
May 18, 2024 at 7:30 AM
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I actually only got a code 0304 since I replaced injectors. I have gas leaking so assuming it's in cylinder 4... It's not at the rail. So, I get to take it all apart again. New MAP sensor comes today. I'll test the could and plugs again after I find the leak. My gauge to empty was counting down like New Year's Eve, lol.
May 18, 2024 at 7:30 AM
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If you own a bore scope you could pull the spark plug and look into the cylinder that way, it's a great tool to verify all kinds of diags, I use it sometimes just to take a look at intake and exhaust valves, cylinder wall condition, catalytic converters, etc. Its worth every penny if you're going to keep doing your own repairs. With a bore scope in the cylinder, you should be able to look right at the tip of the injector and see it dripping fuel.
May 18, 2024 at 10:47 AM
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Unfortunately, I do not have that tool however I was looking in the valves and is it normal for one to be down a little bit and the other three to be all the way up here's a little video.
May 18, 2024 at 1:30 PM
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Well, I'm trying to send the video and it won't upload.
May 18, 2024 at 1:34 PM
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No that's not normal, with 2 intake valves and 2 exhaust valves, each pair should be the same. Are you taking a video with the valve cover off?
May 18, 2024 at 3:02 PM
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If the valve cover is off, you can take a look at the valve springs and see if one is broken, take a picture if you can't upload a video. Is it the #4 that you see a valve hanging open?
The valves are adjustable on this engine, but it's with tappets that sit under the camshaft lobes, and wouldn't cause the valve to be open enough to visually see it.
May 18, 2024 at 3:07 PM
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Intake manifold off cylinder 2 is about..25"
Below flush... Where the others are.
May 18, 2024 at 7:42 PM
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Intake manifold off cylinder 2 is about..25"
Below flush... Where the others are
May 18, 2024 at 7:42 PM
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It's difficult to see in the video, but I'll take your word for it, did you pull the valve cover off and inspect the valve train for any issues? They're very clean for being a GDI system, usually there's a ton of carbon build up on the valves and it requires a walnut blasting to clean them out. But I would start by checking under the valve cover to see if there's anything you can spot visually. Thats definitely going to be the cause of the #2 misfire code. Obviously if you find a broken valve spring, it will have to be replaced. When you have the valve cover off rotate the engine by hand and watch the #2's valve/camshaft movements. But you have a very good idea of what you're doing, I'm sure you can get this figured out. Let me know if you need any further service info.
May 19, 2024 at 11:26 AM