Power Windows

the window could be one or two problems , one would be the window motor itself , or the window switch , you can check for power in and out of the switch if your handy with a test light or volt meter , the same goes for the blower motor , check for power , usually the motor goes bad , if you need more help trying to diagnose it let us know this info is prelim to get you started , oh and they are not related always check the fuse first

[quote:a0c213530d="CHEVYII"]the window could be one or two problems , one would be the window motor itself , or the window switch , you can check for power in and out of the switch if your handy with a test light or volt meter , the same goes for the blower motor , check for power , usually the motor goes bad , if you need more help trying to diagnose it let us know this info is prelim to get you started , oh and they are not related always check the fuse first[/quote:a0c213530d]

Niether window works. I would not think both motors would go at once. Are the fuses for both inside the car or one of the large ones under the hood?

inside the car , ive seen both go at once , but start with the fuses and then go to the master window switch the one on the drivers door if they check out of suspect the motors

[quote:9504ae8168="CHEVYII"]inside the car , ive seen both go at once , but start with the fuses and then go to the master window switch the one on the drivers door if they check out of suspect the motors[/quote:9504ae8168]

Can you direct me to somewhere I might find a layout for the fusebox with all the different fuses labled? I bought the car used so do niot have the owners manual. I have 2 repair manuals and have also looked on the internet but cannot find one.

there is a relay on the relay block behind the left side of the dash , you should beable to find another relay under there to swap out with the window relay just look at the part numbers ,

are both window switches inop , right and left , you cant close or open the windows from either side
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[quote:6677194330="CHEVYII"]there is a relay on the relay block behind the left side of the dash , you should beable to find another relay under there to swap out with the window relay just look at the part numbers ,

are both window switches inop , right and left , you cant close or open the windows from either side
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Are we inside the car for these relays? Niether window switch works.

yup inside under the left side of the dash, im going to hang for a while to see if we can get ya going

i forgot to tell you its right by the brake pedal and it should be the one on the upper right corner should only be 4 in there

I see nothing by the brake pedal. No relays there.

]they may be a covered black box right above the brake pedal , its there may be a little hidden probably 4iches by 4 inches

[quote:5154b7238e="CHEVYII"]]they may be a covered black box right above the brake pedal , its there may be a little hidden probably 4iches by 4 inches[/quote:5154b7238e]

There is no box there just went and looked again.

is it a gs model

never mind i rechecked and it doesnt matter what model it is the box with the relay is under the left side of the dash ,i am looking at the schematic now

[quote:998dbb1348="CHEVYII"]is it a gs model[/quote:998dbb1348]

RS

[quote:41bc186141="CHEVYII"]never mind i rechecked and it doesnt matter what model it is the box with the relay is under the left side of the dash ,i am looking at the schematic now[/quote:41bc186141]

So I am looking for a 4"x4" box with 4 relays in it. It is seperate from the fusebox?

[quote:12add7627e="CHEVYII"]never mind i rechecked and it doesnt matter what model it is the box with the relay is under the left side of the dash ,i am looking at the schematic now[/quote:12add7627e]

[quote:6151ec7e15="kbeucke"][quote:6151ec7e15="CHEVYII"]never mind i rechecked and it doesnt matter what model it is the box with the relay is under the left side of the dash ,i am looking at the schematic now[/quote:6151ec7e15]

So I am looking for a 4"x4" box with 4 relays in it. It is seperate from the fusebox?[/quote:6151ec7e15]
yes i doubt the diagram is wrong , but you never know , it shows four relays and thats it , its possible it could be in the fuse box but i doubt it , sorry if this is getting confusing

[quote:d1a223c34d="CHEVYII"][quote:d1a223c34d="kbeucke"][quote:d1a223c34d="CHEVYII"]never mind i rechecked and it doesnt matter what model it is the box with the relay is under the left side of the dash ,i am looking at the schematic now[/quote:d1a223c34d]

So I am looking for a 4"x4" box with 4 relays in it. It is seperate from the fusebox?[/quote:d1a223c34d]
yes i doubt the diagram is wrong , but you never know , it shows four relays and thats it , its possible it could be in the fuse box but i doubt it , sorry if this is getting confusing[/quote:d1a223c34d]

I looked at the fuse box and it looks like it has 2 relays in it. I do not see a 4"x4" box.

nope thats not it , i just re looked again at the whoel list of relays and its under the dash , try moving toward the center of the dash and look up , sorry again , but im looking right at it only 4 relays no fuses

[quote:9d34c9ef22="CHEVYII"]nope thats not it , i just re looked again at the whoel list of relays and its under the dash , try moving toward the center of the dash and look up , sorry again , but im looking right at it only 4 relays no fuses[/quote:9d34c9ef22]

Appreciate the help. I am off tomorrow and will see what I can find. If you are back tomorrow check in I might need you again. Are both relays in there? The one for the window and the blower motor? Thanks again.

no problem , im in and out all day , well after 1pm est

Never did find the relay box. However I did get at least the drivers side window to work. I think I will get another switch for it. Would a faulty switch on the drivers side prevent the passenger side window from working? Any advise on my blower motor. Can't believe it stopped too. Is there a relay for it? Cannot find a blown fuse.

yes the drivers door switch is called the master switch, sounds like that may be it , i always like to check power in and out before i replace them

Glad to see you are back. Any advise on the blower motor?

well i hate to tell you but there is a relay box under the left side of the dash that has a blower relay in it and a fuse in teh fuse box , it looks like its close to the door and may be above the fuse panel , if you find it there will be four in there and as before if they all own the same part number try swapping them out and see what happens

we need to find you aa manual , i will check on that too

Well I think we hit a road block again. There is no relay block in my car. I took off the trim at the console and looked there too, thinking it might be closer to the middle but no relay.

well i can say this there is only a few things in the blower motor circuit , working backwards the blower motor itself , the blower motor resistor in the glove box on the left side has a 4 wire connector , the fan switch , a relay and a fuse , if you have no fan at all usually the blower motor the relay or the fuse is bad , if you have one or two speeds the resistor is bad , i cant figure out for the life of me why there is no relay box where it should be , i know there is one in the engine compartment , its gotta be somewhere there , my software may be wrong , i dont know
a quick test for the blower motor itself is to unplug it and run a hot wire from the battery to the blower to see if it works

I would guess it to be the relay since I cannot find a blown fuse, but no idea where that is.

recheck my post i added some lines above

Well obviously I need the find the relay. Not under the dash so not sure where it might be. Thanks for the help.

check in the eng compartment , check on ebay for a manual , ive seen them there cheap , this would help you alot,im still around if you do need something

I have checked eveywhere for a manual. I like Chilton's but they do not have one. So I bought a hayne's and it is not very good. I have looked on the internet but had little luck.

oh i meant an owners manual to find all of the things we are looking for

Where do I get an owner's amnual?

well i tried , sorry we couldn't get it , and i understand if you dont wanna leave feedback ,

but feel free to check in on anything else and check that manual on ebay its pretty cheap

thanks
jim

You have been great thanks.

no thank you , you hung in there like a trooper , and doing this over the net is tough sometimes , hope you invest in thatowners manual , its a good tool

thanks and take care , feel free to find me if you need me , all of the moderators here are good so ask away you will get the help you need


jim