1993 Mercedes Benz 500sl High idle, 'hunting idle'

1993 MERCEDES BENZ 500SL
10,700 MILES • V8 • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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MOUNTIE55
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I get different answers from different people, about the same symptom.

Turn on the car,,, idle at 1,100 rpm. Then the idle is 'hunting' ( up/down). Driving the car, it is fine & smooth. A new throttle actuator, new engine wire harness, new tune-up. Car is never in "limp mode".

Has anyone actually experienced this problem, and found a fix??

I promise..... I am willing to donate.... But so far I have been going round / round.

( Consider this a "test question"?
Sep 24, 2009 at 7:26 PM
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2CARPRO JACK
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Sounds like you may have a vacuum leak.With engine idling carefully spray around intake area with carb cleaner.If the engine rpm changes you have found a leak.
Sep 28, 2009 at 1:46 PM
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just another thought, I glanced at a fix database. Suggestions, main wiring harness-- throttle actuator-- throttle cable, if all that checks out, check for a faulty air mass sensor. Pay attention to Jack, he always helps me, when I get in trouble.
Sep 28, 2009 at 2:00 PM
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[quote:4878672de6="2CarPro Jack"]Sounds like you may have a vacuum leak.With engine idling carefully spray around intake area with carb cleaner.If the engine rpm changes you have found a leak.[/quote:4878672de6]

I'll try the 'ol trick with carb cleaner... ( But other than the high idle & 'hunting' idle, the engine is smooth & strong)

New engine wire harness, just put in a rebuilt Throttle Actuator, swapped an E Gas module & didn't improve. ( New tune-up)...
Sep 28, 2009 at 2:19 PM
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[quote:72adeb351b="jdl123"]just another thought, I glanced at a fix database. Suggestions, main wiring harness-- throttle actuator-- throttle cable, if all that checks out, check for a faulty air mass sensor. Pay attention to Jack, he always helps me, when I get in trouble.[/quote:72adeb351b]

All checked out..... My '93 500 SL doesn't have an, air mass sensor.

(Which I am talking to you guys)....

What do you know about that Accellerator Peddle/ Position sensor ( mounted on gas peddle bracket?)
Sep 28, 2009 at 2:23 PM
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My bad, maybe I was looking at the wrong engine family?


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/170934_benz_air_flow_sensor_1.jpg

If you get the feeling I don't know what I'm doing, some days I get the same feeling. Thanks alot Mike.
Sep 28, 2009 at 3:29 PM
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( I miss-wrote my silly comment)..... " Which is WHY I am talking to you guys"... Trying to nail down cause, because I am getting different suggestions..... Thanks for that drawing ( small to read)..... But where is it located??
Sep 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM
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https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/170934_mercedes_maf_sensor_1_1.jpg


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/170934_mercedes_air_flow_sensor_2_1.jpg

Sorry for the picture quality, I tried to magnify a little, If I magnify too much, you can't tell anything about the picture. B2/3 and B2/4 is the location. When I said," thanks alot Mike", Mike is my boss, he told me to take a look at your post. I guess I waited too long, Jack was already talking to you. I'll help anyway I can.
Sep 28, 2009 at 4:51 PM
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Thanks, much appreciated..... When I remove my large air box, you see a single 3" opening about in the center of the intake manifold, with the Throttle Actuator under it. The airfilter/airbox has a 3" opening in the center/bottom. I see no air sensors as shown.... I have air inlets on either side of airbox, into the airfilters, but no sensors. Hey, I notice your address is in Anaheim? I'm in Corona Del Mar.... ?? Possible to just drive the beastie to you? ( $) Donation?
Sep 28, 2009 at 7:36 PM
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https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/170934_mercedes_air_mass_meter_1.jpg

The picture came from a Mercedes parts book for your year make and model. I can't tell you what to replace, only make suggestions on what to check. Sometimes the databases and partsbooks are not correct, but, that is all I have to go on. Because this is an internet site, the people that help out here are from all over the world. I live in Oklahoma.
Sep 29, 2009 at 10:23 AM
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I like that state..... ( I used to haul a prototype Sooner Trailer for Team Mears / INDY... NICE trailer!! Uh, I always learn from you guys.... Maybe my Mass Sensor is the single opening on top of my Throttle Actuator..... I'll take a look .. ( I am working on getting a repair manual... that'll help!!)
Sep 29, 2009 at 10:56 AM