Malfunction light on

Three inches over-full is really excessive and can lead to engine damage. The oil is high enough to get hit by the spinning crankshaft. That whips air into it, which can be compressed. The whole purpose of oil under pressure is it cannot be compressed, so it isolates moving parts from each other. Air can let those parts come in contact with each other and lead to wear and eventually a major failure. To say it can get to six inches over-full is quite unprofessional. I would be concerned if I found the oil to be 1/4" too full. If an inexperienced mechanic came to me claiming the oil was 3" too full, I would ask him if he thought to wipe the dip stick off first.

Your engine computer can detect around 2,000 potential defects. When it does, it will set a diagnostic fault code. About half of those codes refer to something that could adversely affect emissions. Those are the codes that turn on the check engine light. There can be other codes in the transmission computer that also relate to things affecting emissions. Auto parts stores use simple code readers that usually can only read the codes in the engine computer, and not in all the other computers. For those, you need a scanner, and you will likely have to visit a mechanic for that.

The most serious of defects result in the check engine light flashing. That means too much unburned fuel is going into the exhaust system where it will burn in the catalytic converter and overheat it. You are supposed to stop the engine right away and let the converter cool down. If you keep driving, a problem with a minor cause could turn into a very expensive repair.

For the next most serious of defects, the check engine light will be on any time you run the engine, even after the cause has been fixed. The light will go off once the fault code is erased. This could apply to your car. Some code readers cannot erase fault codes, and some can only do that on some car brands.

To finish my wondrous story, if the defect is a little less serious, the check engine light will turn off the next time you start the engine, and will not turn on again until the problem occurs again, (in the case of intermittent problems). Once it does turn on, it will stay on until you turn the ignition switch off, then restart the engine. For the least serious of defects, if an intermittent problem goes away while you are driving, the light will turn off at the same time. There are about 1,000 defects that can set a fault code but never turn on the check engine light. You typically will not notice a running problem, and the defect does not adversely affect emissions.

Thank you for your advice. They are very helpful. Loosk like we better take the car back to the Auto Garage to have them scan the car again. Hopefully it is something less serious.
We appreciate your help very much. And thank you, 2carpros.com for being there!
MarthaK

You are welcome. Please keep us informed on your progress.

Drove down the driveway and the light was still on. I turned off the engine while waiting for my husband to get his car out of the garage. When I turned the engine back on, the light was gone. We drove around and the light stayed off. The only thing we did last night was upon hearing that a friend had to replace her gas cap (hairline crack) when her light came on, was to take off our gas cap to check for cracks. No cracks, and I put the cap back. We called up the repair shop right away and he was happy that we got the problem solved.
In analysis, when the light started blinking furiously two weeks ago, I did check the gas cap right away per manual. But I did not take the cap off, I merely turned the cap for three more clicks. My husband said that was wrong, I should have taken off the gas cap, then put it back on, granted the coil number one was also going bad at the same time. It goes to show that we, meaning me, am learning new things every day.
And thank you so much for your advice and support, and for being there!
Have a wonderful day!
MarthaK

Remember there are over 2,000 defects the Engine Computer can detect. One of them is a "small leak" in the fuel vapor recovery system, and one is a "gross leak" in that system. A loose gas cap is just one of many possible causes of those fault codes.

There's two ways the vehicle's emissions are measured. One is the composition of gases leaving the tail pipe while the engine is running. Those are what is measured when the vehicle goes through the state inspection. The second way is the vehicle is placed in an air-tight room, then the air in that room is sampled a specific amount of time later. Interior fabric for seats, carpet, and especially head liners produce "off-gasing" which contributes to harmful emissions. The industry is more worried about fuel that vaporizes in the gas tank, then leaks out to the environment. Starting with '96 models, the tank and fuel supply systems are sealed, and every manufacturer has their way of measuring pressure or vacuum in the tank, then watching to see if that changes too quickly, indicating a leak.

Out of those 2,000 potential defects the Engine Computer can detect, about half of them refer to things that could increase the amount of bad stuff that leaves the tail pipe, or the amount of fuel vapors that sneak out of the fuel supply system. Chrysler started controlling those vapors in the late 1960s. A few years later they added a charcoal canister to absorb the gas vapors that formed in the top of the gas tank. Those vapors are drawn out and burned when the engine is running. Today that system is monitored to be sure no vapors leak into the atmosphere. That's where the loose gas cap is detected.

If you tighten the gas cap until it clicks, it is tight enough. There's no need to remove it first. There is a vent in the cap to allow air to enter the tank as the fuel is used up. It's that vent that typically fails to seal, and allows vapors to leak out.

Also be aware a leaking gas cap is responsible for a leak in this system perhaps five percent of the time. It is much more common to have a loose or rusted hose clamp, a dry-rotted hose, or a leaking computer-controlled valve that lets vapors leak out. Because it can be almost impossible to figure out what is leaking with a visual inspection, a new tool was developed to help with that. It is a "smoke machine" that develops a white, non-toxic smoke at two pounds of pressure. We inject that into the system, then wait and watch to see where it is sneaking out. For most of those leaks, even once you know where it is, you still can't see what is wrong. Most repairs involve replacing a hose, a hose clamp, a gas cap, or most commonly, a valve. Tightening the gas cap is the only one of those you can try yourself.

The loose gas cap will never cause a flashing Check Engine light. The cap is part of the system that involves vapors being given off when the vehicle is sitting. The flashing Check Engine light refers to excessive pollutants going out the tail pipe that are caused by too much unburned gas going into the engine while it's running. Lots of things cause tail pipe emissions to increase, and those are the 1,000 or so fault codes that turn on the Check Engine light. Only a few of those things are caused by too much unburned gas going into the exhaust system. Those are the things that cause the light to flash.

For the states that require emissions inspections, they used to measure and analyze what was coming out of the tail pipe, and that was it. Once a model was approved for manufacture, the off-gasing of individual cars was not measured. The '96 and newer models do that for us with that fuel vapor recovery system that can detect a leak, including from a loose gas cap. Instead of the inspector looking for a leak, he is looking to see the computer has not detected a leak. The simple absence of a diagnostic fault code is all that's needed to pass the test, but that still has never addressed the gases coming from the interior fabrics and material. It is assumed if that is held to acceptable limits on a few random test models, it will be the same for all the other cars of that model, and unlike emissions-related problems that can develop on individual cars, off-gasing of interior components will only decrease over time.