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2004 SATURN ION
148,000 MILES • 2.2L • 4 CYL • FWD • MANUAL
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TRAVIS JONES
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After driving normally car will not go into gear. Gearshift will move all around and I can see the linkage below moving. But it's like it's not moving anything. There is no resistance moving forward and backwards. Shifter will stay in either forward or after position and stay. Both during off and running.
Aug 27, 2016 at 7:50 PM
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So can you see the linkage on the transmission moving?
Aug 27, 2016 at 8:02 PM
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TRAVIS JONES
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1G8AZ52F34Z173029 is the vin
Aug 27, 2016 at 8:09 PM
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When I push it forward I can see the rod extend. I'm working on my own so I can't watch it. But it appears to be moving the linkage
Aug 27, 2016 at 8:10 PM
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TRAVIS JONES
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Just used a video to confirm. Linkage does move the arm on the transmission when I move it front to back.
Aug 27, 2016 at 8:13 PM
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Alright if the linkage is moving on the inside doesn't mean it's moving on the transmission.Cable ends break retaining clips pop off etc.
Aug 27, 2016 at 8:17 PM
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First movement is front to back. And then pushing towards 1st and second and front and back
Aug 27, 2016 at 8:21 PM
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Can't get the video to upload. I can email it if that helps.
Aug 27, 2016 at 8:32 PM
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If your linkage is moving is your clutch working?
Aug 27, 2016 at 8:58 PM
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Push the clutch to start. I can just do circles with the shifter. The H pattern isn't there. It doesn't grind or anything even I'm searching for a gear either. With the car on off clutch depressed or at rest
Aug 27, 2016 at 9:01 PM
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If you can't feel the h pattern and you can't feel it shift into each gear something is wrong with the linkage itself I wish I see/feel what was going on with the shifter.
Aug 27, 2016 at 9:26 PM
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You think there is an issue with the linkage even though it's moving the arm on the transmission? I could shoot a video of moving it but it's too long to upload. I could upload it to a website and post a link if that would help.
Aug 28, 2016 at 4:42 AM
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Update: linkage all seems to be in tact it moves the selector arm front to back side to side on the tranny. I moved it by hand all around and it moves like butter. Shouldn't there be resistance when I move it on there?
Aug 28, 2016 at 5:10 AM
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You said there is no H pattern ?You should shift it into first second etc and the shifter inside stay there?Iam Confused on what's going on?It's really hard because I can't shift it or see or feel anything.
Aug 28, 2016 at 7:52 AM
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I took apart the shift fork and found the bolt that runs thru it into the shaft going into the tranny Is broke in 3 pieces so when it moves forward and backwards the shaft doesn't move with it
Aug 28, 2016 at 7:58 AM
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This bolt is broke. I'm having issues removing the part lodged in there
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Aug 28, 2016 at 8:01 AM
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I had a feeling it was the linkage that's a bolt snapped off?If so you can try to use s punch to spin it out or a reverse drill bit to spin it out.
Aug 28, 2016 at 9:04 AM
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Just drilled the bolt out that was in there. Now just trying to find a roll pin to put in its place.
Aug 28, 2016 at 2:50 PM
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You drilled the threads out also?If so why?A reverse drill bit usually bites the bolt and spins it out.
Aug 28, 2016 at 3:33 PM
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The threads were pretty mangled. If the pin doesn't hold I may drill it out slightly bigger and tap it for a new bolt. Do you not think a roll pin will hold?
Aug 28, 2016 at 3:35 PM
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No I wouldn't use a roll pin there not designed to do that.Get a helicoil kit and put new threads in there make sure you get the one that comes with the drill bit and tap.That's how I would fix it the right way.
Aug 28, 2016 at 3:38 PM
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Do you know where I could find the part number to replace the whole assembly instead of re threading it. It's badly rusted.
Aug 28, 2016 at 4:16 PM
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Take a good picture of the part you need post it and I will try to help you find one
Aug 28, 2016 at 4:27 PM
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Got it replaced. 2nd 4th and reverse don't shift into well and they work if I kind of slam it into gear. any idea what might be causing that? 1 3 and 5 work great and slide in as expected.
Aug 28, 2016 at 7:12 PM
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Sounds like something is binding up it's hard to say I can't see see what's going on.Make sure nothing is too tight and binding.With all that rust try lubing up everything up with some deep creep made by sea foam.
Aug 28, 2016 at 7:19 PM
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There was a plastic piece for when you move left and right that broke off on the transmission end. Likely that would cause this big of an issue? It's basically like it doesn't quite go all the way into gear unless it gets rammed in
Aug 28, 2016 at 7:21 PM
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Can you post some pictures that would really help.
Aug 28, 2016 at 7:24 PM
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I can tomorrow yes
Aug 28, 2016 at 7:28 PM
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This piece
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Aug 28, 2016 at 7:36 PM
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Where the notch is where it goes
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Aug 28, 2016 at 7:36 PM
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Another
Aug 28, 2016 at 7:37 PM
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Aug 28, 2016 at 7:37 PM
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We need to replace that piece and lube everything up with deep creep.
Aug 28, 2016 at 7:48 PM
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Think you could find a PN for that?
Aug 29, 2016 at 2:19 AM
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Can you try to take a nice picture of the assembly all bolted up and post it?Iam having trouble finding that part Iam still looking.I would call it the shift tower.
Aug 29, 2016 at 5:24 PM
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So in place of that roll pin I spoke of earlier. Do you think about replacing it with a grade 8 HI-LOK instead?
Sep 1, 2016 at 4:54 PM
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If your taking about where threads hold it down I would just install a helicoil.You still have the broken piece
Sep 1, 2016 at 6:42 PM