Knocking noise coming from the passenger side catalytic converter area

2003 FORD F-150
175,000 MILES • 5.4L • V8 • 4WD • AUTOMATIC
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Alrighty y’all. My truck listed above has been making a knocking sound since September. I know for a fact it’s not a rod knock. The sound is coming from my passenger side catalytic converter area. Any ideas? I was told it’s a bad catalytic converter
Mar 3, 2021 at 6:00 PM
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Hi there,

We need to determine if the catalytic converter is defective, the link below will assist with testing if this is the case. the most common problem is that the matrix collapses and this can rattle and knock inside the exhaust.

The link below will assist with testing the converter.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-a-catalytic-converter

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/bad-catalytic-converter-symptoms

Mark (mhpautos)
Mar 4, 2021 at 5:27 AM
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Okay, thank you. do you think that noise would sound like a catalytic converter? I’ll do those test as well later today.
Mar 4, 2021 at 8:15 AM
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If you can post a short video clip of the noise that may help me determine what it may be.
Mar 4, 2021 at 8:21 AM
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So i put my ear up to the catalytic converter and I could hear it more there, than around my engine.
Mar 4, 2021 at 12:03 PM
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Here is the video:
Mar 4, 2021 at 12:03 PM
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Good morning,

If that is coming from the converter, the insides of the converter are melted and loose and they are moving around internally. The converter will have to be replaced.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/catalytic-converter-replacement

There was a TSB for knocking which I posted below as well.

Roy

TSB 04-20-6

10/18/04

TICKING OR KNOCKING NOISE COMING FROM THE
CATALYTIC CONVERTERS

FORD:
1997-1998 F-250 LD
1997-2003 F-150

ISSUE
Some 1997-2003 F-150 vehicles equipped with any engine, and 1997-1998 F-250 LD vehicles equipped with the 5.4L engine, may exhibit a ticking or knocking noise coming from the catalytic converters. The noise may be described as sounding like a diesel engine. The condition will be present when the vehicle is in gear at idle only, and is more pronounced when the vehicle is stationary, such as sitting in a drive-through line. The noise is normal, and is created by engine pulses being amplified through the light-off converters.

ACTION
DO NOT replace converters unless loose internal components are found. To reduce the noise, install a wrap kit on each of the light-off converters. Refer to the instruction sheet included in the kit.

WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage And Emissions Warranty Coverage


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OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME 042006A Install Wrap Kit On Both 0.7 Hr. Light-Off Converters (Includes Time To Perform Road Test)

DEALER CODING
CONDITION BASIC PART NO. CODE 5E212 42
Mar 8, 2021 at 2:46 AM
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Thank you very much.
Mar 9, 2021 at 8:14 PM
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You are welcome.

Always glad to help.

Roy
Mar 10, 2021 at 2:57 AM
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So should I replace my converters to get rid of this noise?
Mar 11, 2021 at 6:44 AM
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Correct. The inside is broken into solid chunks.

Roy
Mar 11, 2021 at 7:49 AM
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I replaced the catalytic converters, still have the knocking sound.
Apr 11, 2021 at 5:39 PM
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Can you upload a new video a little longer with the noise?

Roy
Apr 12, 2021 at 4:08 AM
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I don’t have another video currently, but it sounds exactly like the original video. It has quieted down a little since I put some lucas oil stabilizer in, but I’m still unsure what the knock is.
Apr 13, 2021 at 12:10 PM
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The video was so short, I barely heard the noise.

I would have the oil pressure tested manually to be sure it is not an oil pressure issue.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-noises

Roy
Apr 13, 2021 at 12:23 PM
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I can get you another video tomorrow if that works.
Apr 13, 2021 at 7:03 PM
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Yep, that will work.

Roy
Apr 14, 2021 at 12:14 AM
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Sorry for the late response. Here is a video where you can really hear it.
Apr 29, 2021 at 8:54 AM
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Here is another, it’s not as loud here.
Apr 29, 2021 at 8:54 AM
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Thanks for the video.

That is internal engine noise. It could be lifters or bearings.

I would suggest replacing the engine with either a used or rebuilt engine.

Roy
Apr 29, 2021 at 10:51 AM
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That is way too expensive for me, lol. I was told there was a TSB on the noise? It gets really quit after the engine warms up as well.
Apr 29, 2021 at 2:14 PM
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I do not see a TSB for it at all. Even if there was, it is not free. It still costs for the repair.

Roy
Apr 29, 2021 at 4:50 PM
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I know it does cost to get fixed. I’ve heard there’s a TSB for it because you hear it most at the cat converter. I believe the TSB was mentioned above.
Apr 29, 2021 at 6:41 PM
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It is the type of repair that would be required to tear down the engine to determine the failure. At this point, a tear down is required for the next step.

Roy
Apr 30, 2021 at 2:05 AM
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Okay thanks.
Apr 30, 2021 at 1:14 PM