parking and emergency brake warning lights on?

2005 HONDA ACCORD
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RCHBRN
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The parking/emergency brake light comes on while driving but the brake itself is not on (or does not seem to be on). What could be causing this?
Sep 30, 2010 at 8:45 AM
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WRENCHTECH
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That lights serves 3 purposes.

1) Parking brake on
2) Hydraulic imbalance that would cause a low pedal
3) Low brake fluid
Sep 30, 2010 at 9:05 AM
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I was driving my car one day and then all of a sudden these lights just came on. So I took it to the Honda dealer and they did a diagnostic check and my electrical system totally failed. so:

1. Replaced the battery, now my voltage is all good
but the light still remains...So we checked my brakes, I needed new brakes so:

2. I got new brakes, now I'm good to go on my brakes. but the lights still remain...So now they said well you should get a new master cylinder and that should solve the problem.

So my question is will the new master cylinder solve my check ABS light and Emergency brake light?
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:04 PM (Merged)
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Yes it can because the master has a fluid level sensor that can go out. Check out this guide it will help


https://www.2carpros.com/articles/brake-system-warning-light-on


Please run down this guide and report back.
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:04 PM (Merged)
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2005 Honda Accord 4 cyl Automatic 138000 miles

Hi there! I am having a problem maybe once every couple of months where the car will be driving along the freeway and the car just completely dies all the lights, radio and everything go out and then comes right back on. It is very scary. This last time I noticed that the ABS and Emergency Brake Light flashed. The malfunction light came on and then the next time I started the car it was gone. The code cannot be read by the computer. My computer was rebooted, but problem did not occur again until 4 months later so I did not go back since I was told to come back when it happened again. Do you think this could be a computer problem? Also, the fuse box that controls the radio seems loose and so the radio goes on and off. If you apply pressure to the fuse box the radio comes back on. I heard about a recall on 2005 honda accords for fuse box issues, but I called honda and they said my car was not apart of the recall. The recall is in regards to the fuse box and the fuel pump so I am not sure I don't think this is the problem since electrical things happen. Your help is greatly appreciated.
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:04 PM (Merged)
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Hello lj050405

I have found the recalls you have mentioned.
There is a phone number for Honda you can call to clarify the problem with what the dealer said to you.

Honda Accord Recalls
Accord FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE:DELIVERY:FUEL PUMP Recall – ID# 47207




Recall Date
MAR 14, 2007
Model Affected
2005 HONDA ACCORD
Description
ON CERTAIN VEHICLES, A COIL WIRE INSIDE THE FUEL PUMP RELAY MAY BREAK, CAUSING THE FUEL PUMP TO LOSE POWER. IF THE FUEL PUMP BECOMES INOPERATIVE, THE ENGINE MAY NOT START.
Consequence
IF THE FUEL PUMP LOSES POWER WHILE DRIVING, THE ENGINE COULD STALL WITHOUT WARNING, AND A CRASH COULD OCCUR.
Remedy
DEALERS WILL INSPECT AND REPLACE THE FUEL PUMP RELAY FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 2, 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AT 1-800-999-1009.
Potential Units Affected
166561

Honda Accord Recalls
Accord ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:FUSES AND CIRCUIT BREAKERS Recall – ID# 26978

Recall Date
APR 05, 2005
Model Affected
2005 HONDA ACCORD
Description
ON CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES, A LOOSE TERMINAL IN THE MAIN FUSE BOX MAY CAUSE THE FUEL PUMP TO LOSE POWER. IF THE FUEL PUMP BECOMES INOPERATIVE, THE ENGINE MAY NOT START.
Consequence
IF THE FUEL PUMP LOSES POWER WHILE DRIVING THE ENGINE COULD STALL WITHOUT WARNING WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
Remedy
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE ENTIRE FUSE BOX FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 13, 2005. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AT 800-999-1009 OR ACURA AT 1-800-382-2238.
Potential Units Affected
1923
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:04 PM (Merged)
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[quote:05c567df26="mathiaso"]Hello lj050405

I have found the recalls you have mentioned.
There is a phone number for Honda you can call to clarify the problem with what the dealer said to you.

Honda Accord Recalls
Accord FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE:DELIVERY:FUEL PUMP Recall – ID# 47207




Recall Date
MAR 14, 2007
Model Affected
2005 HONDA ACCORD
Description
ON CERTAIN VEHICLES, A COIL WIRE INSIDE THE FUEL PUMP RELAY MAY BREAK, CAUSING THE FUEL PUMP TO LOSE POWER. IF THE FUEL PUMP BECOMES INOPERATIVE, THE ENGINE MAY NOT START.
Consequence
IF THE FUEL PUMP LOSES POWER WHILE DRIVING, THE ENGINE COULD STALL WITHOUT WARNING, AND A CRASH COULD OCCUR.
Remedy
DEALERS WILL INSPECT AND REPLACE THE FUEL PUMP RELAY FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 2, 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AT 1-800-999-1009.
Potential Units Affected
166561

Honda Accord Recalls
Accord ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:FUSES AND CIRCUIT BREAKERS Recall – ID# 26978

Recall Date
APR 05, 2005
Model Affected
2005 HONDA ACCORD
Description
ON CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES, A LOOSE TERMINAL IN THE MAIN FUSE BOX MAY CAUSE THE FUEL PUMP TO LOSE POWER. IF THE FUEL PUMP BECOMES INOPERATIVE, THE ENGINE MAY NOT START.
Consequence
IF THE FUEL PUMP LOSES POWER WHILE DRIVING THE ENGINE COULD STALL WITHOUT WARNING WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
Remedy
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE ENTIRE FUSE BOX FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 13, 2005. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AT 800-999-1009 OR ACURA AT 1-800-382-2238.
Potential Units Affected
1923[/quote:05c567df26]

Hi there,

Actually I already called American Honda and they said my car is not apart of the recall. Does this sound like something that would be a consequence of the issues with the recall? They certainly did not care when I called and told them.

Would the ABS and emergency brake light flash? Would the car lose all power including electrical?
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:04 PM (Merged)
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MATHIASO
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Hi,

Potential units affected for the first recall is 166561 vehicles
The second recall affected 1923 vehicles.
if they have taken information about your vehicle and find out that yours is not part of it, so I think the problem is somewhere else.
The problem happens while driving,a bad module may have electrical components inside that is damaged. Tiny transistors, diodes, resistors and other components are very sensitive to heat. And any of these components, near breaking down, may not fail until there is enough heat in the engine compartment.Have the ignition module tested, some auto part store do it for free.
Next, have the computer tested at your dealer to make sure it is not causing the problem.
driver circuit in the computer may be bad.
try disconnecting any sensor and find out if it shows the code.
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:04 PM (Merged)
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I have recently encountered the same problem.
my car's entire electrical system went out while I was driving.
What occurred here seems to fit the fusebox recall 05V132000.
However my VIN number is not included in the recall bulletin.

Mathiaso, where did you get the info about a first recall?

IJ050405, What did you end up doing to get this resolved?
I will have the pleasure of contacting HONDA tomorrow.

Thanks
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:04 PM (Merged)
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PM1202
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Ij050405 - is your VIN in the 1HGCM56???? range???
Just want to get an idea if its possible to get this recall expanded.
I picked up my car from the dealer in Oct 2004. So im assuming it may have been manufactured within a month. The recall is for cars manufactured nov 12th- 17th I think.
so assuming, from the number of cars affected 1900 about within a 5 day period.
this could easily include another 10k vehicles...2k vehicles pet week/5week estimate assuming my car was manufactured 1st week of Oct.

Any owners of a 2005 accord experiencing this same problem? ??

Thanks
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:04 PM (Merged)
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reference lose of power

Vehicle Make / Model: Model Year(s):
ACURA / TL 2005

HONDA / ACCORD 2005

HONDA / ODYSSEY 2005

Manufacturer: HONDA (AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO.) Mfr's Report Date: MAR 29, 2005
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 05V132000 N/A
NHTSA Action Number: N/A

Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:FUSES AND CIRCUIT BREAKERS
Potential Number of Units Affected: 1,923
Summary:
ON CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES, A LOOSE TERMINAL IN THE MAIN FUSE BOX MAY CAUSE THE FUEL PUMP TO LOSE POWER. IF THE FUEL PUMP BECOMES INOPERATIVE, THE ENGINE MAY NOT START.
Consequence:
IF THE FUEL PUMP LOSES POWER WHILE DRIVING THE ENGINE COULD STALL WITHOUT WARNING WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE ENTIRE FUSE BOX FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 13, 2005. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AT 800-999-1009 OR ACURA AT 1-800-382-2238.
Notes:
HONDA RECALL NOS. P73, P74. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.






Aug 16, 2019 at 2:04 PM (Merged)
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I checked the brake fluid level in the reservoir and it is full. Any thoughts? The car seems to stop fine when driving and really no difference than before.
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:05 PM (Merged)
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Check the flote in the master cylinder. Try un plugging the sensor @ the flote. And try un plugging the parking prake switch to see if the light goes out
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:05 PM (Merged)
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Would you say it is safe to drive about 10 miles until I get home tonight to check?
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With out seeing it I can't promise. But with what you stated sofar I would say its safe.
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:05 PM (Merged)
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What are my scenarios when I check these? If I unplug the sensor and the light goes out? what does that tell me? If I unplug the emergency brake switch and it goes out? What then? Sorry I'm a novice, but dad will be here tonight and knows a lot more about the car.
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:05 PM (Merged)
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2002 Honda Accord 4 cyl Automatic 71994 miles

i was driving my car yesterday and my emergency break light came on what does tha mean? and no my emergency break was down
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:05 PM (Merged)
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This usually indicates that you are running low on brake fluid. Check brake fluid in the resevoir in engine compartment.

There may also be a sensor located near the E brake lever that is stuck or the E brake needs adjustment so that the sensor reads the position of the release lever properly. This is very rare problem though so I suggest checking fluid first.

Post your results and I will follow up if needed.

Hope this helped and thanks for using 2carpros.com!
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:05 PM (Merged)
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Is it possible that the brake pads have sensors in them that are telling me they need to be replaced?
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No, brakes pads do not have any sensors to tell you when pads are worn out.

If it is the word BRAKE, then you have a blown brake bulb. If it is the park brake indicator that is showing, then it most probably is due to low brake fluid level, which could mean a leakage somewhere or the pads are wearing out soon.
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:05 PM (Merged)
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KHLow...your statements are opposite of what the manual is telling me. The red word BRAKE is what's showing up, which talks about checking the break fluid
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Is it the sign Brake with a bracket? If yes, then it is the brake fluid level that you need to check. If the indicator is below the door ajar, then it is the brake blubs.
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:05 PM (Merged)
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It is the parking brake and brake system indicator
see: http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/om/AC0404/AC0404O00060A.pdf
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That is for the brake fluid level.
Aug 16, 2019 at 2:05 PM (Merged)
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My brake warning indicator light won't turn off. I took it to my Honda dealer and they determined it was the sensor that was broke. They told me that the sensor was part of the master cylinder after 2001. I have since had the brake pads replaced front and back, the lines have been bled. I've replaced the master cylinder. The brake fluid is full. Any thoughts?
Jul 1, 2020 at 1:53 PM (Merged)
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It sounds like you have a parking brake level sensor that is not working can you look to see if it is connected?
Jul 1, 2020 at 1:53 PM (Merged)
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Thanks for this post I had this problem and it was the parking brake switch broken I got a new one for $34.00 all fixed, I love this site.
Jul 1, 2020 at 1:53 PM (Merged)
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The BRAKE light stays on in the dash board. I have check the fluid, it is ok. Brakes are not making any sound. I replaced pads (all wheels)about 10,000 ago. The TCS light is also on. I think that is the Traction Control System. Is it save to continue to drive this car. Honda said to replace the pedial switch, i did, no change. They said to replace some may control unit for about $400.00-$500.00?
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It's safe if you consider not having ABS or traction control to be safe. With the weather going on right now it might be rather important. It shouldn't effect the regular brakes.
Jul 1, 2020 at 1:54 PM (Merged)
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I just did a lot of brake work including replacing the master cylinder, now the brake light keeps coming on at random.when I tap the cap of the master cylinder it goes off. I have no problem braking. my question is, is the sensor in the brake cap bad and does the master usually come with a new cap? I didn't have this issues before the replacement.
Sep 30, 2020 at 5:54 PM (Merged)
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Welcome to 2CarPros.

Chances are the switch is going bad and sticking (or the fluid is low). The switch is in the cap and basically functions as a float. As the fluid goes down, the plunger drops. At a specified point, it actuates the light.

You can try removing the cap and moving the plunger up and down to see if that takes care of it. Other than that, it needs replaced.

By the way, this cap doesn't come with a new master cylinder.

I attached two pictures. Picture 1 shows that the cap is the switch and picture 2 is an exploded view of the cap and reservoir.

Let me know if you have other questions or need anything.

Take care,
Joe
Sep 30, 2020 at 5:54 PM (Merged)
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Thanks a lot-I have to replace the cap since I already played with the plunger-appreciate the info.
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Welcome back:

Happy to help. Let me know if you need anything.

Take care,
Joe
Sep 30, 2020 at 5:54 PM (Merged)