Heater not working!

1999 HONDA ACCORD
137,000 MILES • 6 CYL • FWD • AUTOMATIC
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NATEW51
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Hi Everyone, I've got a 99 Honda Accord and I've been fighting heater issues for a 2 years now. There really doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to why it is not working properly and the shops have not been able to really figure it out either. The core is not leaking and the hoses in and out of the heater core are good and hot, so the water is circulating. Last time I had it worked on was exactly 1 yr ago. The flushed the heater core and actually reverse flushed it, but I'm not 100% sold that that is actually the issue, because nothing ever really flushes out. The heater has been working great up until 2 days ago when my alternator went. I've replaced the alternator and now the only time the heater seems to blow warm is when I idle it up to about 3K. As soon as I back off, the heater cools off. Could this be the core is just bad or could it be something with electronic doors not opening and closing properly due to the issue I had w/ the alternator. The car has climate control, and I just hate to pull the heater core unless absolutely necessary because it is such a huge job and will cost lots of $'s. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance!!
Jan 17, 2010 at 12:06 PM
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Hi natew51, Try entering the self diagnostic to see if you can come up with anything. ENTERING SELF-DIAGNOSTICS 1 . Turn ignition on. Turn blower switch OFF. Place recirculation control knob in recirculated air position (indicator light will come on). Press and hold recirculation control switch to fresh air position (indicator light goes off). 2. Continue to hold recirculation control switch until indicator light comes on for 2 seconds. At this point it will blink the Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) to indicate the faulty component. One blink indicates air mix control motor, 2 blinks indicates mode control motor, and 3 blinks indicates evaporator temperature sensor. If indicator lights come on, test appropriate component.


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_HVACDiagnostic99AccordFig06_1.jpg

NOTE: Fault information is not retained in memory. In case of multiple problems, the light will indicate the DTC with the least number of blinks.
Jan 20, 2010 at 11:40 AM
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Hello,

These cars had a problem with trapping air inside the heater core which it sounds like is your problem. With the car nice and hot with the heater running full blast engine running as well jack the rear of the car up as high as you can, this will release the air pocket and make the heater work again.

Here is a guide that can help as well.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-heater-not-working

Please let us know what happens.

Cheers, Ken

Jan 30, 2018 at 12:14 PM
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NATEW51
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You are a genius Ken that was the problem all along. I will remember this site well, you saved me my sanity!
Jan 30, 2018 at 12:15 PM
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CSHOFFEITT
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My '99 Honda has good heat as long as the engine is over 2,000 rpms, but is only luke warm when idling. Does this mean I need to replace the heater control valve? (Hoses, coolant and thermostat replaced in November)
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:06 AM (Merged)
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KASEKENNY
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This is one of two issues which one is the control cable. I attached the info for an adjustment and a common cause of this issue. Inspect the cable as shown and see if it has slipped off.

If not, you most likely have a restriction in the heater core or an air pocket. We want to check the level of the coolant and top it off if it low. Then you will want to pressure test it. Here is a guide that will help with that.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/radiator-pressure-test

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-heater-not-working

Then I attached the process for the heater core. We want to check the temp on the hoses coming from and going to the heater core. When the engine is hot, and the heater is on full hot, they should be too hot to touch. If they are not then you have an issue with the heater core.

Let us know what questions you have. Thanks
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:06 AM (Merged)
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GMAC0603
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Heater problem
1999 Honda Accord 4 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic 124KM miles

Hi experts, I'm not getting any heat even though fan works fine, the knob isn't stripped, I can hear a change of wind sound when I go from cold to hot on the dial. Not even warm heat is coming out.

Thanks in advance
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:06 AM (Merged)
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F4I_GUY
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Your heater core is most likely clogged. Try to flush it out, or replace it.
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:06 AM (Merged)
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Hello,

Is sounds like the engine can be low on coolant or you have a temperature blend door actuator that has gone out. Can you check the coolant level and get back to me?

Here is a guide that can help as well:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-heater-not-working

Please run down this guide and please report back.

Cheers, Ken
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:06 AM (Merged)
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ANIRBAN TARAFDER
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Hi,

I have this strange problem. Heater is not working at postion 1. At position 2 it blows hot air only if speed is above 40 mph. when i stall the engine cool/normal air flows. at position 3 and 4 again the temp falls for the hot air.

I got my thremostat changed but still problem persists.
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:07 AM (Merged)
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KHLOW2008
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Hi Anirban Tarafder,

Seems there is insufficient coolant flow to provide the heat and you need to check,
1. Clogged heater hose.
2. Heater valve not opening sufficiently due to operating cable out of adjustment.

The blower speed resistor is bad so you don't have 1st speed.
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:07 AM (Merged)
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MAGNOGREATO
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My car is the LX model. it is putting out next to nothing in heat. The temperature gauge is reading upscale, indicating heat, but heat control is all the way up and blows out no 'hot' air which may be the heater/temperature control may be bad(?) How to verify that or where should I look?
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM (Merged)
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CARADIODOC
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Feel the two small heater hoses under the hood. They should be too hot to hold onto for very long. If they are cool, suspect a plugged heater core. They can usually be back flushed with a garden hose.

Here is a guide that can help fix the problem:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-heater-not-working

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Dec 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM (Merged)
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RASMATAZ
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Check and test the thermostat, heater core if it is clogged, heater control valve and the air blend door/actuator.
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM (Merged)
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Feel the two small heater hoses under the hood. They should be too hot to hold onto for very long. If they are cool, suspect a plugged heater core.

Do you have a temperature gauge on the dash? If so, is it reading in the "normal" range. If it is low, suspect the thermostat is stuck open. You are going to have to go out and feel the hoses.

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Dec 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM (Merged)
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MAGNOGREATO
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gauge is normal. Okay I got the point about the hoses. What is an air blend door/actuator and how do I know if I have got one anyway? Are they on a 1998? I can back wash the heater but if it is the front panel control how do I access it without messing up the dash?
Thank you.
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM (Merged)
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The blend door selects between heated and non-heated air for the desired temperature of the incoming air. The actuator depends on the type of control system you have. If you have the common sense manual levers, knobs, and switches, there will be cables that could become disconnected or out of adjustment. If you have computer controls, the actuators are usually electric motors with position sensors. Either system could use vacuum motors to move the various doors around, but those are typically used for things that are turned either fully on or fully off. A door to the defroster would be fully open to defrost the windshield, or be fully off when you want toasty feet. Blend doors are not usually set for full hot or full cold all of the time so vacuum motors do not work well for that function.

If you have a manual slide lever for temperature, you might be able to hear the blend door hitting its stops when you move it back and forth. Some cables, such as on Dodge Caravans, are self-adjusting by means of the cable sliding through fingers of a clip on the actuator lever. If the door becomes rusted tight in the cold position during the summer, it will not move in the winter, but the cable will slide giving the impression the door is working. When that happens, you will not hear the door move when you slide the lever back and forth.

If you have vacuum controls, you should be able to hear some of the doors moving when you switch to different functions, and you will often hear something moving around when you stop the engine and vacuum goes away. The systems are spring-loaded to go to the defrost position when there is no vacuum to insure the windshield can be cleared. When none of these controls work, a leak in the vacuum hose can be suspected, or the hose could be disconnected.

Computer controls often have self test/calibration procedures that can get pretty complicated. Problems with these controllers often leads to flashing display lights or the system has gone out and has no lights turned on. It's common for them to be intermittent too. If you get hot air sometimes and not others, suspect the computer. Otherwise they typically do not go out of calibration unless the battery was disconnected or run dead.

The two most important clues are whether the two heater hoses are hot and if you can hear something moving when you adjust the temperature control. Beyond that, it becomes a process of eliminating all other possible causes before condemning the computer. Most manual controls can be accessed under the dash or often by removing the glove box liner, radio, or heater controls. Computer controlled actuators typically require removing the steering column and dash assembly to remove the heater box. That gets real involved and is definitely not a do-it-yourselfer project. Experienced mechanics know how to diagnose the most likely cause of the problem before removing anything, and they know what to look for when they get the heater box on the workbench.

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Dec 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM (Merged)
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JAMES GREENE
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I press the air button on dash no air no light -----
I press the heater button ---no heat no light

I was told --a rister proble? if it is that then why no heat or air even though the blower blows ???

any suggestions ? second submission
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM (Merged)
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2CARPRO JACK
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So basically nothing on the climate controller works except the blower control? Have you checked all fuses with a test light? Did this happen all of the sudden or has it been intermittent until now?
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM (Merged)
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JAMES GREENE
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it is my sons car, he said the air heat sometimes did not work but now it happened all of a sudden.

What location should I check the fuses?
under the hood ? the drivers side of the dash or the passenger side of the dash?

thanks for replying.
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM (Merged)
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2CARPRO JACK
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So it has been going away, and has now quit. I would check every fuse with a test light. Sometimes part of the HVAC system will be fused under the hood as well as in the interior. It sounds like it may have an issue with the blend door, if it is not doing what you request temperature wise.
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM (Merged)
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JAMES GREENE
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the lights to indicate the air is on/the heat is on/etc., do not come on on the dash control when I press them. I will check the fuses again tomorrow.
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM (Merged)
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2 LINSEY
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How did the fuses look?
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM (Merged)
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JAMES GREENE
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okay.
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM (Merged)
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2CARPRO JACK
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Did you check all I listed in your other post with a test light?
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM (Merged)
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RICIAN BLAST
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The car is a 1999 Honda Accord LX with 128,000 miles.

It was involved in a front-end accident. Car was repaired but when I got it back the heat was stuck ON all the time. I could turn the heat control but it did not affect the heat. The blower fan is controllable and working fine.

The next day I could turn the heat off...but once I did it now will not go back on. The radio is also not working, it won't even turn on. Seems that my clock light also does not work.

I checked all fuses and they appear to be fine. I'm wondering if it is possible that in the accident a wiring harness became detatched from its source (I pulled the center panel and the wires to the heater control knob were attached and intact.

On a side note, a soda that was in the car flew forward and drenched the dashboard, but I find it unlikely that the soda crept into the panel and did any damage.

Any thoughts?
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:17 AM (Merged)
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BRUCE HUNT
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I say this so much that I make myself sick, but this sounds like a ground that was left off or is loose or has a bad connection. Is the heat control knob striped?
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:17 AM (Merged)
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RICIAN BLAST
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no, the knob "feels" fine. On the back of the center control panel it looks like everything is well connected.

Could I possibly trace the wire harness back to some other spot and maybe find it is detatched from its source?
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:17 AM (Merged)
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BRUCE HUNT
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Still check the grounds. The A/C works? The heat on and off controls the valve that opens the coolant. Obviously there is a problem with the valve regulation and this could be ground or a loose connection.
Dec 1, 2020 at 11:17 AM (Merged)
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Will not blow hot air.
Dec 30, 2020 at 11:15 AM (Merged)
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Hi and thanks for using 2carpros.com.

There are only a few things that can cause this, low coolant, plugged heater core, or a bad blend air door actuator. Take a look through this link:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-heater-not-working

Now, if the coolant level is full, start the engine and turn the heater on high. Wait until the engine reaches operating temperature and turn the engine off. Next, there are two heater core hoses that you will see attached at the firewall under the hood. Feel both. They both should be hot. If they are, suspect a problem with the blend air door. If only one is hot, suspect that heater core is plugged or the heater control valve isn't working. I attached a picture of the control valve to help identify it.

The valve is located under the hood at the fire wall and will be attached to one of the heater hoses. Have a helper change the temperature controller in the vehicle while you watch to see if the control valve is moving. If it isn't, then either there is a cable problem or the valve is corroded or rusted shut.

Do these things and let me know the results so I can direct you to a fix.

Take care,
Joe
Dec 30, 2020 at 11:15 AM (Merged)
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My heater is not blowing hot air. It will convert the temp if it is not colder than about 50degreees out to warmer air but does not blow hot. A few years ago, I found that the temperature control was broken. The actual cable. I can turn the knob from hot to cold, but not from cold to hot. I can reach under the dash, and manually push the lever to warm. However, It still does not blow hot. I know the cable is broken one way. But it seems there must be another problem going on as well. Otherwise, it should be blowing hot when I manually push the lever as far as it will go. My mechanic said it was the hvac control mode motor. I have looked that up and there doens't seem to be such a part. I have recently moved from Phoenix to Omaha..I'm going to need all the heat I can get!
Dec 30, 2020 at 11:15 AM (Merged)
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Hi jemintun,

Seems the cable has been dislodged or improperly adjusted. Check if the cable housinng is seated properly on the clip.

Check if the heater hoses from engine to heater core is clogged or might have been disconnected.
Dec 30, 2020 at 11:15 AM (Merged)