Severe Engine Oil Leak ?

1994 HONDA ACCORD
167,668 MILES • 4 CYL • FWD • AUTOMATIC
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DJ00140
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Ok so I have 94' Honda accord DX 2.2L vtec w/ an f22b automatic, I got it from a good friend who got it with a fresh head gasket. It's leaking about a 1/2 to 1 qt every other day appx. I knows its not the oil pressure switch, just got that done, just got the oil pan gasket done, not the valve cover.

It's leaking from the passenger side rear corner of the engine, the first mechanic did all the other work on it (except the hg) and sprayed it all down cause the entire engine was covered in oil and said it had to be the head gasket. He thinks the mechanic who did the HG before didn't do a good job because he didn't change out the water pump or timing belt, which got done after. The upper end looks new because its all shiny but IDK (maybe new head?).

The car doesn't leak any anti-freeze and doesn't overheat or smoke. It just started smoking out of the exhaust but that was just cause it was cold thismorning?

Anyways the second mechanic was a little better and had a camera to look around and said it might be the HG but wasn't sure because it was covered by the transfer case but it was for sure the rear passenger side of the engine and was leaking down some tube. It leaks the majority when its running so I can only think it could be a cracked block or the HG, but that was just done... what else is in that area that it could be please help!!! thanks in advanced.

Following parts were just done:
-oil filter (yes it is tight)
- brakes and tires
-oil pan gasket (which is missing a bolt but isnt leaking)
-water pump timing belt and radiator
-distributor wires and plugs

The whole bottom half of the engine is covered front to back and pretty much the whole front half bottom of the car

I know where its coming from but its covered by the transfer case, What is in that area that can leak. Im trying to diagnose possible problems before I take it apart.

Also Is there any way to rule out a head gasket or cracked block due to no oil in the anti-freeze, not over-heating, not running rough at all? Or are all these still possible with these problems?
Mar 18, 2010 at 9:43 PM
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CARADIODOC
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This sounds like the rear main seal is leaking which you will need to remove the transmission to replace.

Here is a guide

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/crankshaft-main-seal-replacement-rear

This guide can help as well

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-is-leaking-oil

Please run down these guides and report back.
Mar 18, 2010 at 10:39 PM
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Thanks that's the response I was looking for, I will let you know for sure when I get it fixed, but If its dumping 1/2 to 1 qt every other day wouldn't there be more symptoms if its the head gasket or not necessarily? I will let you guys know within a week! None of these is more expensive than a head gasket right??? quick estimates would help so i dont get ripped off. if its not the head gasket im going in in a few days: -Where Gear Case meets Bell Housing -vtec solenoid valve -gasket for cam sensor -rear cam seal -cam sensor o-ring -oil galley plugs


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/503072_100323_180616_1.jpg

Ok today i went under the car and it was dripping in between the tranny and engine... rear main seal??? I took a pic
Mar 23, 2010 at 6:29 PM
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What you have to look for is the highest point you find oil. The rear main seal and some oil galley plugs require removal of the transmission to get to them. A few engines, most Chryslers for example, have a two-piece rear seal that only requires removal of the oil pan to replace it. That takes about two hours. Removing and reinstalling the transmission is usually at least a six hour job.

The other four things you mentioned are in the open where leaking oil would be easy to see.

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Mar 23, 2010 at 6:52 PM
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UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok so this mechanic i found on craigslist says he can find out whats going on and give me an estimate before he does any work. $100 to remove the intake manifold and find the leak. So He calls me and says its $400 and I can come look at it and he'll show me what he did, Im like wtf i thought you were gonna call me first and tell me what needed to be replaced. But anyways I get there hepoints to the vtec solenoid and says he had to take off the intake to get to it.

I'm like you dont have to take the intake off to that im not paying $400, you didnt even ask my permission to do the work (im guessing since it was such an easy fix and he already put that much work into it he just finished it up) But then he's like well your not getting your car back until you pay me the $400, so im like yea ok and call the police, they get there make me pay the $100 which I agreed i owed and took the car, he tried to get me to sign something ad im like no way, and he just put paid in full for $100 so i signed it so he couldnt take me to court which was his only option of gettting paid!!!

So long story short I got it fixed for $100 and a bunch of BS but how much would a honda dealer charge me for this, he just replaced the gasket seal that has 3 circles with the strainer looking part on one part that attaches the solenoid to the engine.
Mar 30, 2010 at 7:58 PM
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Hope this takes care of it. Sorry for all the grief. Up here in Wisconsin, we sign a repair order with the maximum amount listed. You can't be charged more than that amount without your permission.

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Mar 30, 2010 at 9:48 PM
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about how much would it cost to fix an oil leak?
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:49 AM (Merged)
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It depends where the oil leak is coming from. For example, if it's a crank seal, it could cost $300. If it's an oil filter, it could cost you $10.
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:49 AM (Merged)
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where is the leak coming from. If it's the oil pan gasket. Get more information because this may be a common problem.
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:49 AM (Merged)
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i have a 1994 honda accord auto transmission recentley it has got an oil leak i can see the oil leak near the bottom end of radiator like i can can see the oil leak from the housepipe going out from radiator by seeing the colour of ythe oil i can say it is transmission oil could u explain me about the transmission cooling system and weather the transmission oil passes through the radiator for cooling.
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:50 AM (Merged)
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That is affirmative. The oil from the tranny is cooled in the radiator. I would check where the leak is coming from and then if it is from the core or the radiator itself, I would replace it. Don't mess with anything else. They can run around 80 new. You could also check to see if one of the connections has loosened up and retighten it.
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:50 AM (Merged)
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My 94 honda accord is leaking oil from the top of the pan,right where the dip stick sleeve goes into the pan.I thought at first it was the o-ring in the sleeve,so i replaced it and it still leaks just right in the area in between the where the sleeve goes into the oil pan.So what can be the problem and how can it be repaired?
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:50 AM (Merged)
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[quote:984ba0035c="afiala"]My 94 honda accord is leaking oil from the top of the pan,right where the dip stick sleeve goes into the pan.I thought at first it was the o-ring in the sleeve,so i replaced it and it still leaks just right in the area in between the where the sleeve goes into the oil pan.So what can be the problem and how can it be repaired?[/quote:984ba0035c]

Hello !!

clean the area and see exactly where the oil its coming from...

could be an small "crack" on the dip stick tube housing..
if that its the case some epoxy on a clean oil free area should solve the problem!

good luck and let us know!
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:50 AM (Merged)
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Honda accord 1994l; milage: 234 000km, sedan Vti. I just had the engine replaced about a year ago because of the head gasket but now it seems like theres a leak comming from under the car i am not sure where and how to solve it? does it mean i need another new engine? can an "engine seal" fluid that you can buy help?
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:50 AM (Merged)
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[quote:ffa1bc2288="IRT"]Honda accord 1994l; milage: 234 000km, sedan Vti. I just had the engine replaced about a year ago because of the head gasket but now it seems like theres a leak comming from under the car i am not sure where and how to solve it? does it mean i need another new engine? can an "engine seal" fluid that you can buy help?[/quote:ffa1bc2288]

Hello!!
Oil Leak?
Water Leak?
Transmission fluid leak?
How bad its the leak?
(I`m not recommend any leak sealer)
let us know!!
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:50 AM (Merged)
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I have replaced: all upper seals, installed new timing belt and balencer belt. Still there is an oil leak. must have missed something. suggestions? dan
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:51 AM (Merged)
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Hi Dan,

Where is the leak coming from?

If it is at timing belt side, possible areas are:

1. Crankshaft oil seal.
2. Balancer oil seals.
3. Rear balancer housing O ring.
4. Valve cover gasket. Check for proper installation.
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:51 AM (Merged)
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thanks for the ideas, will check it. dan
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:51 AM (Merged)
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NATESF
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my car randomly decided to puke out all of the oil i checked th plug and all the seals and i tried to find the leak by pouring oil into the car with no luck any suggestions as to how to get repaired without getting ripped off
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:51 AM (Merged)
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Hi natesf,

There are many possible areas for oil leakages and some of them requires replacement of seals that require a lot of time.

You can get an assesment from various sources to get an idea of what needs to be done and the estimated cost.
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:51 AM (Merged)
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When i start the car it dumps oil from somewhere by the belts lower shafts maybe. do you know what that might be and a rough estiment on getting that fixed? thanks matt
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:51 AM (Merged)
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yeah thats your crank seal. the seal probably costs .99 . but the job will be whey more. but basically all you have to do is remove the harmonic balancer, pull the seal out and push the new one in
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:51 AM (Merged)
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I have a 93 accord wagon, and recently the engine developed a sudden leak out of the driver side of the engine, spurting out at least a quart of oil after I strated it up. This follows some problems with the radiator leaking. Can you give me estimates for probable repairs for this problem?
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:52 AM (Merged)
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Hi there,

with out knowing what the oil leak is, i can't give you a rough idea, can you be more specific about this leak?

Mark (mhpautos)
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:52 AM (Merged)
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The leak seemed to be somewhere around the seal of the pan or the bolts above it (center of the pictures below).


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/430969_DSCF7943_1.jpg


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/430969_DSCF7940_1.jpg

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Hi there,
Wash it down and tighten the sump bolts and see if that stems the leak, let me know how that goes.

mark (mhpautos)
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:52 AM (Merged)
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[quote:9d1c7f7ec0="mhpautos"]Hi there,
Wash it down and tighten the sump bolts and see if that stems the leak, let me know how that goes.

mark (mhpautos)[/quote:9d1c7f7ec0]

I tried to tighten up the bolts on the sump and pan, but the oil was spurting out somewhere higher than I could see, so i had the car towed in to a local mechanic. He gave me some estimates for problems he saw - hopefully you can tell me if these are reasonable.

He said the leak was from under the cover over the timing "auxiliary belt and auxilliary shaft." he said the timing belt was soaked, and it was unclear to me exactly what he said had to be fixed/replaced there, but he may have suggested the timing belt be replaced too.

He also said that the water pump was completely disconnected (this explains the leak in my coolant system) and since they were all in the same place, he could replace the water pump and fix the leak and the timing problems, the whole repair there costing $875 parts and labor.

Is this reasonable? The mechanic is AAA certified, I'm inclined to believe that means something in terms of competence and honesty.

He also noted my CV boots were totally shot on both front wheels, which he said "we all dried out" and hence required the entire axle to be replaced, at a cost of $276 per axle. I knew the CV boots were trashed, but I couldn't afford to fix them before, and to be honest i barely drive the car at all. So i don't know how much damage may have been done, even if they were dry rotted through for some time. Is this price reasonable, does that repair sound necessary? Can I get by on them like they are without anything worse happening than already happened?

Finally, he said my front brakes were shot -"down to less than 1 mm." Repair costs, "if machinable" were $515, if the brake rotors were replaced, $675.

I am on a tight budget now - I need to get the car to the smog check for registration, but since I rarely drive it I'm hoping i can either let some of the other repairs sit, get them done elsewhere for cheaper, or even do some of this myself. So what do you think, a lean Christmas for the kids this year or what?

Thanks!
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:52 AM (Merged)
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i have a 92 wagon and had my timing belt replaced & water pump (recommeneded when replacing timing belts due to location). Was around $350 give or take. This did not include replacing the seals and tensioner (did not need replacing). I would price around, never just get one quote. Could get dependable shop for less. If your mechanically inclined, axles are easy change and i usually get rebuilds for about $65 each. Rotors on the other hand since they are pressed in, shops can so this for around $150 from what i gathered. This can be done yourself again if your mechanically inclined. I am a garage do it yourselfer.
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Engine Mechanical problem
1992 Honda Accord 213000 miles
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Why does my oil only leak when the car is hot. After I turn the engine off and it coos for a couple of hours and place oil in it it does not leak. But if the engine has just been turned off or still hot it leaks.

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Dee
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:52 AM (Merged)
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Hi Dee,

If the oil leaks only when and after runnig the engine, some of the oils seals are faulty. You need to check those.

Check where the leak is coming from, the oil filter, its base O ring and oil pressure switch, valve cover gaskets, crankpulley end( a few oils seals here) and flywheel oil seals.
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:52 AM (Merged)
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hello. my '92 accord wagon engine has a leak dripping at the oil filter mount stem coming off the engine. this stem is leaking where mounted to the engine, is there a gasket there or what else may be causing the leak. thanks
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:52 AM (Merged)
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Hi jeemosan,

There is an O ring behind the oil cooler, ie the oil filter mount. to replace it you need to remove the oil filter and main nut of the oil cooler.

You might need to replace the coolant hoses as they could be hardened and removal would damage them.
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:52 AM (Merged)
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Hello,
I bought a used 1992 honda accord EX with an automatic transmission and 150,000 miles. I have only put 250 miles on it.
Today I went to replace the spark plugs and the spark plug well is covered in oil. my spark plug wrench comes out of the hole with oil on it and the spark plug is coated along with the spark plug wires. It is like this for all 4 spark plugs.
I can't tell for sure if there is oil on the motor side of the spark plugs,but it appears that the oil on this end got there when I removed the plugs.
What could be the causes of this leak?

thanks,
tim
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:52 AM (Merged)
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There is are rubber seals that go between the head and the valve cover. They are not doing their job and are leaking. You could very carefully retorque the bolts on the valve cover and see if the oil leak disappears or replace the valve cover gasket and the seals.
Aug 25, 2020 at 11:52 AM (Merged)