Engine shut off without warning

2009 FORD ESCAPE
67,522 MILES • 3.0L • 6 CYL • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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GIGISULAMANIDZE1
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hi, today my vehicle's engine shut off without warning. only battery light and oil light was turned on. radio was working also. then i started and she started good .
Apr 15, 2018 at 3:44 AM
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Good morning.

Does it start right back up or do you have to wait a period of time?

Is the check engine light on while driving?
Roy
Apr 15, 2018 at 7:39 AM
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GIGISULAMANIDZE1
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it started immediately no check engine light. :( When she shut off only battery light and oil light was on.
Apr 15, 2018 at 7:43 AM
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okay, thanks. the lights are normal when the engine is not running and the key on.

possible causes are:

1. crankshaft position sensor. this is common but needs to be checked with a scan tool.
2. throttle body. if the plate is dirty and full of carbon it will cause this. you need to clean the plate with throttle body cleaner to remove the carbon build up.
3 EGR valve. if the valve does not close quick enough, it will remain open and cause a massive vacuum leak and make the engine stall. this can be monitored with a scan tool as well.

Has anyone looked at this yet?

Roy
Apr 15, 2018 at 7:49 AM
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GIGISULAMANIDZE1
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i checked with scanner no codes. :/ car runs good, i will clean throttle now.
Apr 15, 2018 at 7:59 AM
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Okay.

Can you monitor live data?

Roy
Apr 15, 2018 at 8:00 AM
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GIGISULAMANIDZE1
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Also, sometimes my rpm's jumping little bit. sparks are new plugs are new.
Apr 15, 2018 at 8:09 AM
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Okay, still do those checks.

Roy
Apr 15, 2018 at 8:15 AM
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DTC-CNT 0
FUEL SYSTEM1 _ CL
FUEL SYSTEM2 _ N/A
LOAD-ETC(C) _62
SHRIFT1(%)_ -0.8
LONGFT1(%)_ -3.9
SHRIFT2(%)_ -3.1
LONGFT2(%)_ -3.1
MAP(KPA)_ 34
RPM(MIN)_ 747
SPARKDV_14
IAT (c)_ 29
MAF(G/S)_ 4.25

Throttle looks dirty.
Apr 15, 2018 at 8:46 AM
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Readings look good.

Clean the throttle body.

EGR? any information?

Roy
Apr 15, 2018 at 9:22 AM
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GIGISULAMANIDZE1
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okay, i cleaned Throttle body.
EGR-PTC (%) _ 0.0
Apr 15, 2018 at 9:49 AM
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Okay, good.

How about fuel pressure? did you check that?
Roy
Apr 15, 2018 at 10:51 AM
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No i did not check fuel pressure. how can i check that?
Apr 15, 2018 at 10:52 AM
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Okay, you need a tester for this test. if you do not have one, you can rent one at a parts store.

Roy

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-fuel-system-pressure-and-regulator
Apr 15, 2018 at 10:55 AM
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GIGISULAMANIDZE1
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Hi, fuel pressure was good. I cleaned throttle body and car fills okay .
Apr 18, 2018 at 5:11 AM
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what was the fuel pressure?

Roy
Apr 18, 2018 at 5:20 AM
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GIGISULAMANIDZE1
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I do not remember. my mechanic said that fuel pressure was good.
Apr 18, 2018 at 8:35 PM
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Did the issue happen to your tech? He needs to make it happen and see what happens when it cuts out.

What else has he done. Forget about the codes. That will tell him nothing at this point. He needs to recreate the issue.

Roy
Apr 19, 2018 at 4:28 AM
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GIGISULAMANIDZE1
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Car driving good never shut off. Runs and drives like a new.
May 22, 2018 at 12:18 PM
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Okay, you will need to wait until the issue happens again to track it down. Right now, you cannot fix something that is not broke.

Did you get the throttle body cleaned?

Roy
May 22, 2018 at 12:23 PM
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GIGISULAMANIDZE1
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Yes I cleaned throttle body and changed fuel filter.
May 23, 2018 at 11:55 AM
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Does the issue continue to happen?

Roy
May 23, 2018 at 12:09 PM
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GIGISULAMANIDZE1
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No it has never happened.
May 23, 2018 at 12:11 PM
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This is one of these issues that you have to wait until it becomes more consistent so your tech can actually experience the issue and diagnose it for you.

The throttle body cleaning may have taken care of it. You will need to wait to see if it continues to be an issue.

Roy
May 23, 2018 at 12:14 PM
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GIGISULAMANIDZE1
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It still happened, car shuts of when rolling (foot of from gas pedal). cleaned throttle body (replaced 12,000 mile ago with OEM). car starts fine drives fine but when it rolling about 20-30 mph it will shut off (not every day).
Nov 26, 2020 at 10:24 AM
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Good chance the throttle body itself may be the issue. I attached a guide for you ro review on this problem.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-stalls

Below are the instructions and some pictures for you.

Roy

Removal and Installation

1. Remove the Air Cleaner (ACL) outlet pipe.

2. Disconnect the electronic throttle control electrical connector.

3. Remove the 4 bolts and the Throttle Body (TB).
Discard the TB gasket.

To install, tighten to 10 Nm (89 lb-in).

4. To install, reverse the removal procedure.
Install a new TB gasket.

Nov 27, 2020 at 3:55 AM