Cannot locate the screw in type fuel filter

1986 FORD E-SERIES VAN
218,000 MILES • 5.8L • V8 • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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Sorry I had to resend this. Facebook Login had an old email address. I cannot locate the screw in type fuel filter on my E350 Econoline van/box truck. I have seen a few photos or description but to no avail. Please help
Dec 8, 2019 at 4:27 AM
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Good morning,

The filter is at the inlet of the carburetor. The line that screws into the carburetor must be removed. After that is done remove the fitting. The filter will be there.

Roy
Dec 8, 2019 at 5:44 AM
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Thanks. I had this image from Alldata site. When I put the VIN in it came back with the type filter I bought at Napa. It is not the fabric type as in you photo. It is about two inches long and is a solid brass filter with inner and outer threads. It says remove air cover and then disconnect fuel line then filter. But I cannot see a part that looks like what I bought...
Dec 8, 2019 at 5:51 AM
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Can you post a picture of what you have? I want to see the part.

Roy
Dec 8, 2019 at 5:55 AM
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Sure.
Dec 8, 2019 at 5:58 AM
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Okay, that is for a 2 barrel carburetor. The 5.8 had a 4 barrel which has the style I posted.

They gave you the wrong filter.

Roy
Dec 8, 2019 at 6:05 AM
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Thank you. I dislike part stores I told them this was a 4-barrel carburetor. I really appreciate you response so quickly I will go back and get the correct filter because I do see the type of fitting on the backside of the carburetor that could have a filter inside of it.
Dec 8, 2019 at 6:10 AM
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You are welcome.

Always glad to help.

Roy
Dec 8, 2019 at 6:18 AM
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And I haven't looked on the bottom of the motor yet, but I'm assuming this has the mechanical fuel pump like on a 351 Cleveland motor in my Mustang.
Dec 8, 2019 at 6:24 AM
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That is correct.

Roy
Dec 8, 2019 at 6:26 AM
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One last thing.i am back at the van now. Do you know if the filter housing is on the front or back of the carburetor?
Dec 8, 2019 at 7:04 AM
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Front where the line from the fuel pump enters the carburetor.

Roy
Dec 8, 2019 at 7:07 AM
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Thanks.
Dec 8, 2019 at 7:08 AM
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Roy I ran into a new problem today.

When I got this van the fuel tank selector was set for the front tank. The previous owner said this was the one they used for years in their furniture business. This vehicle is the small box truck that ford made out of the E350 series van. After removing the fuel filter fittings (thanks again on that) and smelling the bad odor of the residual gas I decided to replace the fuel pump and also dropped the front/midship tank to drain all the gas and the fuel filler hoses were dry rotted. When I heard all the settlement after it was empty I removed the ring and the fuel sending unit. It was shocking how rusted and worn it was and the float for gas gauge was in pieces and the strainer crumbled. I have been all over the internet and cannot locate the replacement for this unit. For the rear/aft tank there are a dime a dozen to choose from. So my question is since the rear tank is 20 gallon can or should I just not use the front at all. Or do you think can I find a part for it. And it might have a new part number. Not sure which tank Ford recommends me to use....Thanks for any input
Dec 8, 2019 at 8:09 PM
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Okay, use the rear tank. You do not have to use the mid tank at all. If it has been out of service for a long time, I would drop it and clean it out before putting it back in service.

I looked and there is no sender listed for the mid tank anymore. I would consider replacing the rear tank and make it right. Rock auto has the tank in stock for under $100.00 and it has the lock ring as well.

Roy
Dec 11, 2019 at 12:40 PM
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Thanks Roy I found out the same thing I called my buddy over at the Ford dealer Monday and he said that in 89 Ford recalled all of the E350 vans that had the midship tank are were converted to ambulances because they were catching on fire when they were involved in an accident. In 1999 they discontinue the sending unit for the midship tank all together and he let me know that the rear tank was always considered the main tank for all of these 350 vehicles. This would also explain why there are so many available online and it part stores for the rear tank. He also suggested to just plug the line that goes up to the fuel pump for the midship tank. Also get rid of the selector valve input and install a traditional inline fuel filter so I don't have to go into the carburetor in the future if it needs to be replaced. Thank you for looking into it and you've been a great help
Dec 11, 2019 at 1:20 PM
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You are welcome.

Always glad to help.

Roy
Dec 11, 2019 at 1:22 PM
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Good morning Roy. I have purchased the new tank and sending unit for the rear tank. To my surprise when I removed the rear tank the original sending unit is exactly the same as the mid ship tank. I did find the replacement unit that says is an exact fit for the new 22 gallon tank, per year,make,model,engine and sub model, So I hope it works. looks a little different than the original. Only concern is the original only has two prongs for the plug connection on top and only one wire going down to the gauge. The new sending unit has the one wire going to the gauge, but also has an additional red and black wire. Do I ignore these wires as there is nothing that connects to them? I think originally there was only a ground and gauge connection for the two prong plug in. Thanks
Dec 13, 2019 at 3:54 AM
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Yes, the other 2 wires are for an electric pump if it was an option.

Roy
Dec 13, 2019 at 11:49 AM
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Thanks again. Being gas related repair wanted to make sure. Figured this new unit is now made to cross over for later year models.
Dec 13, 2019 at 11:55 AM
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That is correct.

You are welcome.

Roy
Dec 13, 2019 at 11:59 AM
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Good morning Roy,

My van saga continues. I have replaced the tank and sending unit. cleaned all the lines to ensure no blockage. I have gas coming from the new mechanical fuel pump up to the carburetor, but the carburetor does not seem to get enough to run. I am wondering if I am losing pressure to the return line side of the new pump. I realize they did this in the past due to heated fuel line at the motor and to cool the gas back to tank to eliminate vapor lock. I hope that the selector valve being removed is not the culprit of too much returning and not enough up to the carburetor. Can it cap off the return port at the pump? Also after sitting for so long before I bought it, it may be possible that the jets are clogged with the dreaded green build up of ethanol gas. I own and restored a 1973 Mustang 351C and it sat for almost a year one time and I had to remove my new carburetor and clean the jets. Have not ran any ethanol gas in it since. I have seen a few post of adding gas to the bowl vent to get a vehicle to run and some have used this method to limp back home. Never tried this but it makes sense. Have you ever tried this? If I do and still have a running issue after this method, I think the carburetor may be the problem and a possible rebuild is in order. What is your opinion???
Dec 24, 2019 at 1:51 AM
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Okay, you should have 7 pounds of fuel pressure to the carburetor. If you do, then the issue is inside the carburetor.

Did you replace the carburetor?

Roy
Dec 24, 2019 at 5:50 AM