Front A/C no longer blowing

2008 DODGE DURANGO
125,000 MILES • 4.7L • V8 • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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My A/C in the front used to work perfectly fine until recently the passenger would have to tap the bottom where there feet go to get it started again, well this has stopped working and no air is coming out at all though my back is I'm needing to know what to do. i have a motor blower and resistor on its way, but am wondering what it could be. And do these vehicles have 2 compressors or just 1? Any advice is appreciated.
May 3, 2020 at 3:49 PM
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Good evening,

There is only one compressor for the A/C system It does both the front and rear.

It does sound like the blower motor is bad but needs to be confirmed. You need to check for voltage to the blower motor to be sure it has power.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-test-light-circuit-tester

I attached a wiring diagram for you to do some checks. You can use a test light for these tests.

Roy

1. Disconnect and isolate the negative battery cable.
2. If equipped with a trim cover (2), remove the two screws (1) that secure the trim cover over the blower motor power module (3) located below the right side of the instrument panel and remove the cover.

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3. Disconnect the two wire harness connectors (1) from the blower motor power module (2).
4. Remove the two screws (3) that secure the blower motor power module to the front HVAC housing (4).
5. Remove the blower motor power module from the front HVAC housing.
May 3, 2020 at 4:32 PM
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How would i access the entry to the blower motor? Is it inside the car under the dashboard of the passenger side?
May 3, 2020 at 4:43 PM
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That is correct.

Under the dash by the glove box. There may be a cover on it or it will be right there. Check the looks of the new one when you get it so you will be able to match it.

Roy
May 3, 2020 at 4:48 PM
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Thanks so much. i have been scouring the internet with little to no luck. I appreciate your speed too lol!
May 3, 2020 at 5:24 PM
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You are welcome.

Always glad to help.

Roy
May 3, 2020 at 5:44 PM
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Hey Roy, I am back. So, we replaced blower motor, resistor, then ground out pig tails weren't working from the controls, once we corrected this issue we have air.. bad news it's hot air in both the front and back, but the compressor is kicking in.. I'm thinking blend door actuator or expansion valve. Can you let me know what you think?
Jun 3, 2020 at 1:27 PM
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Okay, I need the high and low side readings of the system with the engine running.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-air-conditioner-not-working-or-is-weak

When you change from hot to cold, can you hear the blend doors move? I doubt they all failed at the same time. This sounds like a Freon issue.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/replace-blend-door-motor

Roy
Jun 3, 2020 at 1:48 PM
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Let me check to see if i hear a change. Also, the blend doors are located under the drivers side? Just want to verify.
Jun 3, 2020 at 1:56 PM
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I was able to hear the door blends move.
Jun 3, 2020 at 2:04 PM
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Okay, then it is not the doors.

I need the high and low side readings. You can rent a set or buy a cheap set somewhere.

Roy
Jun 3, 2020 at 2:14 PM
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Where would i connect it? I'm heading to my auto parts store right now. What is it called? Thanks for helping me out. most the mechanics here want to charge $300.00 just to look at it and give a diagnostic, that's not fixing it or the parts.
Jun 3, 2020 at 2:17 PM
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There is a port for the high side between the compressor and the condenser.

You ask for A/C gauges.

Roy

The A/C discharge line (1) is the refrigerant line that carries refrigerant from the A/C compressor to the A/C condenser (2) and is secured to the condenser fan shroud (4) by a plastic retainer (3). The A/C discharge line has an integral fitting for the A/C pressure transducer (5) See: Refrigerant Pressure Sensor / Switch, HVAC > Components > Description.

NOTE: Replacement of the refrigerant line O-ring seals and gaskets is required anytime a refrigerant line is opened. Failure to replace the rubber O-ring seals and metal gaskets could result in a refrigerant system leak.

The A/C discharge line has no serviceable parts except for the rubber O-ring seals. The O-ring seals used on the connections are made from a special type of rubber not affected by R-134a refrigerant. The O-ring seals must be replaced whenever the A/C discharge line is disconnected.

The A/C discharge line cannot be repaired and must be replaced if found to be leaking or damaged.
Jun 3, 2020 at 2:23 PM
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I can't get the pressure, because no one in my town carries it.
Jun 3, 2020 at 2:45 PM
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Do you have a Harbor Freight? they have them and are the cheapest place to get them.

Roy
Jun 3, 2020 at 2:47 PM
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No sir.
Jun 3, 2020 at 3:33 PM
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Okay, a shop is your last option.

You could go online and get a set of gauges from either Rock Auto or Harbor Freight and have them shipped to you in a couple of days.

Roy
Jun 3, 2020 at 3:36 PM
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Okay, and lets say that the pressure is fine where would i go from there?
Jun 3, 2020 at 3:43 PM
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Your blend doors are working as you stated so the only thing we need to check is the pressures. I believe we are going to see the issue in the gauge readings.

Roy
Jun 3, 2020 at 3:47 PM
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I'm on my way to a guy that has one i can use. I'll send info soon.
Jun 3, 2020 at 4:11 PM
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Sounds like a plan.

Roy
Jun 3, 2020 at 4:15 PM
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All are open.
Jun 3, 2020 at 5:25 PM
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There is no freon in the system.

You will need to evacuate and charge the system.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/re-charge-an-air-conditioner-system

Roy
Jun 3, 2020 at 5:29 PM
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We just put Freon in today that's the picture that showed green.
Jun 3, 2020 at 5:31 PM
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Never mind just checked and it says no Freon.
Jun 3, 2020 at 5:43 PM
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Charge the system and see if you see any leaks.

Roy
Jun 3, 2020 at 5:45 PM
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Getting Freon now.. will keep you posted.
Jun 3, 2020 at 5:58 PM
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Okay. give me the high and low side readings with the compressor running.

Roy
Jun 3, 2020 at 6:00 PM
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So tried the Freon and the gauge went into the red zone which i would think means it's full.
Jun 3, 2020 at 6:15 PM
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Freon is full, but no pressure.
Jun 3, 2020 at 6:27 PM
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Impossible. If there is no pressure then there is no Freon.

Who and how was it checked?

Roy
Jun 4, 2020 at 3:39 AM
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Went to put more Freon as suggested pushed the nozzle down and the gauge went to yellow, i pressed again and it went to red then down to yellow. I didn't want to press it all in there and put to much Freon because we had just put an 11 oz can in there earlier that day. Either the manifold gauge set (i ended up finding and buying, brand new) doesn't work or something is wonky
Jun 4, 2020 at 10:08 AM
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Okay, the third hose attaches to the can to be added. Once you attach the can, then open both low and high side valves for the Freon to enter.

Do this with the engine off, not running

Roy
Jun 4, 2020 at 10:11 AM
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Thought i would update, seeing as you have been a huge help. Took to an actual repair shop, because we were tired of playing the guessing game. Ended up one of our hoses (that has been discontinued) had a hole in it where we couldn't see (ordered the part through Rockauto and will be fixed soon), also water pump was pretty beat up our guy said (which was replaced today brand new) and we also needed a new belt (replaced) he did say the old blower motor was shot along with the resistor and pigtails to the A/C. controls, so it was a multitude of different issues that wasn't going to be able to be done on our own, so we thank you for all the help you provided and will have our A/C going by tomorrow...
Jun 8, 2020 at 10:46 AM
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You are welcome.

Always glad to help.

Roy
Jun 8, 2020 at 12:21 PM