2000 Ford Taurus Possible IAC problem?

2000 FORD TAURUS
57,000 MILES • 6 CYL • FWD • AUTOMATIC
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BIG AL MALIK
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Hi
When my car is running in either park or neutral,and the air conditioner is off,everything seems ok.RPM between 750-900 according to my OBD scanner.Now when I turn on the air conditioner the rpms drop low and cycles like that a few times,then the engine will die.
Now,for the weird part.When the car in in gear,and the brakes applied,the air conditioner is no longer a problem.The rpms hold steady after a very brief and small drop.As long as I am in gear,there is no problem.The problem is opposite of what I would expect,with the air conditioner being added load on the motor.Strange,isn't it?
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Aug 18, 2009 at 7:59 PM
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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IT does sound like an IAC or throttle position sensor. HAs the check engine light come on?
Aug 18, 2009 at 11:03 PM
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BIG AL MALIK
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For the past two weeks,I have viewed over one hundred(easily) posts concerning the IAC,and the TPS,how they work,symptoms,and how to test.
My $20 question is basically this:In all the posts,the idle/air conditioner problem happens when IN GEAR and idling.
My problem is this happens when NOT in gear.It's fine IN gear.When Not in gear is when I have my problem.I do believe it is the IAC or the TPS.I already have an authorized Motorcraft IAC and will install in about two weeks.That's the earliest I can get to it.
I have had a remote starter on this car for the past six years,and I haven't gotten into a cold car in all that time. I'll bet I have a well over a hundred hours idle time.
But,I really would like to get an explanation for my "problem only when NOT in gear" question.
I am not a car guy,I'm an electronics guy.Could it be that the computer knows when the car is in gear,and does something with the idle that it doesn't do when not in gear?
I really am looking forward to the conjecture concerning this,as it seems to be unique as far as the internet posts go.
Thanks again
Big Al Malik
Aug 19, 2009 at 4:36 PM
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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When in gear, the computer does know and sends a signal to idle the engine higher to compensate for the additional load on the engine, especially with the AC on.

Does that help?
Aug 19, 2009 at 6:01 PM
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BIG AL MALIK
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It sure does help.I appreciate it a lot.Thanx,guys.I'll let you know how this plays out in about two weeks when I get around to changing out the IAC.
Big Al
Aug 19, 2009 at 8:45 PM
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I forgot to mention that I get no codes at all.
Big Al
Aug 19, 2009 at 8:50 PM
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I got around to installing the new IAC.When I started the engine with the AC on,the RPMs were still dropping,but not actually killing the motor.They did fall pretty low,tho.Then I moved the throttle cable,at the throttle body, with my thumb,and it seemed to be sticking closed.With a bit more thumb pressure,the butterfly in the throttle body would open.I did this a few times.It was definitely sticking.
I cleaned the inside of the throttle body.There was also quite a bit of varnish in it.I got it working smoothly.
The old IAC was had a good coating of carbon.When I cleaned it little pieces of carbon came out of it.I still used the new one,tho.
After cleaning the throttle body,everything works fine now.
Could it be that a sticking butterfly could cause the symptoms I was getting?
Also,does the computer have to "learn" anything after the work I did?
Just curious.
Thanks again for the help,guys.It was worth the
twenty bucks for the answer you gave me.It gave me the confidence to do the job myself.As I said earlier, I'm not a car guy.
All I spent for the job was $50 for the Motorcraft IAC
I bought from Rockauto and a few bucks for the throttle body cleaner.I have my own OBD scanner too.A professional car guy I know says I saved over $200.
Thankx again.
Big AL Malik
Sep 2, 2009 at 5:03 PM