2000 Ford Taurus CAN YOU SAY DFPE?

2000 FORD TAURUS
129,000 MILES • 6 CYL • FWD • AUTOMATIC
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Ok heres my problem, I have a 2000 ford taurus se, 129000 miles. Engine light on constant. Had codes checked first had 401 which was dpfe. tubes were gone not connected to anything replaced and reconnected. still had light on after codes cleared. Had checked again got code 400. Replaced egr. reset code again. after driving about 4 miles light came back on. Had checked again got code 401 again. Ok after further inspection found wiring harness was cracked on dpfe. Replaced harness and dpfe again. Drove about 35 miles light came back on still reading code 401. What in creation could this be?
Feb 24, 2008 at 1:57 PM
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did you try applying vacuum to egr valve with engine running? you need to check if there is flow through egr valve.
Feb 24, 2008 at 2:03 PM
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[quote:5d9cb4f28e="mastertechtim"]did you try applying vacuum to egr valve with engine running? you need to check if there is flow through egr valve.[/quote:5d9cb4f28e]

mechanic claims to have check it even appears that he replaced some the tubing to the egr. I even took this car to the dealer ship. they keep saying dpfe. I brought 2 of the these sensors at advance auto, finally said forget and kicked out a lil more at the napa store. so do you think that this really the problem or is there a blockage further though the engine. I do use premium fuel 92 octane or better.
Feb 24, 2008 at 2:11 PM
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[quote:d937392c29="mastertechtim"]did you try applying vacuum to egr valve with engine running? you need to check if there is flow through egr valve.[/quote:d937392c29]

can you pm me if possible...
Feb 24, 2008 at 2:13 PM
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well the dpfe sensors go bad on all of these. it is easy enough to check for blockage by applying vacuum to the valve when its running, it should almost stall when you do that. also there is a bulletin for this code coming back for incorrect hose position. try swapping the hoses if you are not sure.
Feb 24, 2008 at 2:14 PM
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[quote:6dadd4e08b="mastertechtim"]well the dpfe sensors go bad on all of these. it is easy enough to check for blockage by applying vacuum to the valve when its running, it should almost stall when you do that. also there is a bulletin for this code coming back for incorrect hose position. try swapping the hoses if you are not sure.[/quote:6dadd4e08b]

to apply vacuum pressure what do i need to do i have already kicked out nearly 400 bucks messing with this im about to go crazy. I am a single mom and cant afford to keep going to these mechanics so alot of times if the work is simple and not too too dirty i do it myself.
Feb 24, 2008 at 2:16 PM
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if you do not have a vacuum pump(you probably dont) all you have to do is get a long piece of vacuum hose and unplug a vacuum line somewhere on engine that has vacuum at idle. then connect your piece of vacuum line from there to the valve while its running, if the egr valve is working correctly then the car should stall or atleast run really rough.
Feb 24, 2008 at 2:20 PM
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[quote:55336fdf70="mastertechtim"]if you do not have a vacuum pump(you probably dont) all you have to do is get a long piece of vacuum hose and unplug a vacuum line somewhere on engine that has vacuum at idle. then connect your piece of vacuum line from there to the valve while its running, if the egr valve is working correctly then the car should stall or atleast run really rough.[/quote:55336fdf70]

thanks so much i think i can handle that, but if it doesnt stall, that means the valve is not working or thier is a clog somewhere else?
Feb 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM
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exactly
Feb 24, 2008 at 2:48 PM
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hi did what what you said with vacuum lines car started to idle kinda rough. so there isnt a clog possibly. so what next?
thanks again for shedding some light.
Feb 24, 2008 at 3:33 PM
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reverse the vacuum lines on the dpfe and clear the code and see if it comes back. it should have run noticably rough, did it?
Feb 24, 2008 at 3:36 PM
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[quote:61fd13ac14="mastertechtim"]reverse the vacuum lines on the dpfe and clear the code and see if it comes back. it should have run noticably rough, did it?[/quote:61fd13ac14]

yes it did....will do..
Feb 24, 2008 at 3:40 PM
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[quote:f20129ab0c="ready2gowwfonmechanic"][quote:f20129ab0c="mastertechtim"]reverse the vacuum lines on the dpfe and clear the code and see if it comes back. it should have run noticably rough, did it?[/quote:f20129ab0c]

yes it did....will do..[/quote:f20129ab0c]

hey its me again...after switching the wires the other day drove around 20 miles and guess what the lights back and its got the same code. why why why?
Feb 26, 2008 at 11:08 AM
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[quote:743fdc7039="ready2gowwfonmechanic"][quote:743fdc7039="ready2gowwfonmechanic"][quote:743fdc7039="mastertechtim"]reverse the vacuum lines on the dpfe and clear the code and see if it comes back. it should have run noticably rough, did it?[/quote:743fdc7039]

yes it did....will do..[/quote:743fdc7039]

hey its me again...after switching the wires the other day drove around 20 miles and guess what the lights back and its got the same code. why why why?[/quote:743fdc7039]

sorry meant hoses not wires..lol
Feb 26, 2008 at 11:10 AM
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well unfortunately we are at the point where we need to connect scan tool and look at voltages then trace wiring and there is not much more we can do here. sorry
Feb 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM
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[quote:e6b64bb27a="mastertechtim"]well unfortunately we are at the point where we need to connect scan tool and look at voltages then trace wiring and there is not much more we can do here. sorry[/quote:e6b64bb27a]

Wow, well i appreciate all your advice you guys are great...thanks
Mar 1, 2008 at 1:19 AM