AC not working?

2002 FORD E-SERIES VAN
400,000 MILES • V8 • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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KAZ442
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Have two 2002 E-350s with 5.4l motors. Both AC systems are not working. AC clutches are not engaging. Owners manaul does don't refrence a fuse or a relay. Any help would be greatly apprecieted
Thanks Jeff
Apr 8, 2010 at 2:25 PM
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Systems are probably low on charge. A low pressure cutout switch prevents the compressor from cycling on so the low side will not get drawn into a vacuum. If it did, air could get drawn in. The humidity in the air will cause corrosion of metal parts in the system.

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Apr 8, 2010 at 2:33 PM
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[quote:6ca1144a99="caradiodoc"]Systems are probably low on charge. A low pressure cutout switch prevents the compressor from cycling on so the low side will not get drawn into a vacuum. If it did, air could get drawn in. The humidity in the air will cause corrosion of metal parts in the system.

caradiodoc[/quote:6ca1144a99]
Hiooked up a can of freon and the gage said over filled. Compressor would not engage so this might be while its reading over filled. Without clucth enaging how would it pull freon from can? Thanks Jeff
Apr 8, 2010 at 2:39 PM
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To double-check, your can is connected to the low side hose that goes into the compressor, right? The pressures in the high and low side will equalize when the system isn't running.

The gauge readings are irrelevent when the compressor isn't running because there is always some vapor and some liquid. When vapor leaks out, the pressure goes down. The lower pressure allows more of the liquid to vaporize and expand. That causes the pressure to go right back up again. The pressure will remain constant until all of the liquid has turned to a vapor.

When the system IS running, it will be real easy to pump the low side too low or into a vacuum. That's when the low pressure cutout switch stops the compressor. If your low side gauge is above the cutoff point, the compressor should at least cycle on for a second or two. If that isn't happening, the place to start is with the compressor relay. Bypassing the relay should make the compressor run so you can see what happens to the gauges. The easiest way to bypass the relay is to pop its cover off, reinstall it, then squeeze the contact. If the compressor runs, that proves the electrical circuit to the compressor, including the fuse, is ok.

If that works, use a piece of wire or a stretched out paper clip to jump the terminals in the low pressure cutout switch connector. If that makes the compressor run, the system is low on charge or the switch is defective.

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Apr 8, 2010 at 5:27 PM
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The post clearly indicates that the relay has not been identified so how to know which relay it is since the owner's manual does not say. Same thing for my 2002 E350, 6.8l.
Sep 5, 2023 at 5:06 PM