cruise control not working?

1998 DODGE CARAVAN
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ISLANDER9498
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1998 Dodge Caravan Front Wheel Drive Automatic

a good friend of mine just got a new car and gave me this mini van but the horn dont work cruise control on wheel dont work and air bag lite is on. and windsheild wipers dont always work or sometimes come on by them self any idea what would cause this?
May 29, 2009 at 1:45 PM
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from what i reading in forum, 1998 to 2005 vans are having same thing wrong.

blower motor relays, air bag light, thing not working on steering wheel and engine service light not going off after reset. my van is at garage now they dais it is the clock spring behind the steering wheel all fixed up.
Jun 2, 2009 at 9:53 AM
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my horn,cruise control do not work, my air bag light is on. I was wondering if my main commputer is going. Iwould like to know where it is located so I can replace it.
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actually no, those problems do NOT indicate bad computer.
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Broken clock spring under the steering wheel. It's a wound-up ribbon cable with circuits for all three systems you listed, and it's common for all three to fail at the same time.

Hi fititmr. Haven't seen you in a while.
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Hello,
my daughter bought a 1998 Dodge Grand Caravan.
the cruise control does not work. she took it back to the dealer and he said he would fix it...he bought one part and now a couple ofdays later he says it the cruise needs a spring that no one in the country has and it will not work without it...she was also told that any dodge dealer would put it in with no charge as it was a lifetime warranty....
can you tell what spring this is and is there a lifetime warranty with this.

thank you,
Mark
Sep 21, 2020 at 7:35 PM (Merged)
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1997 Dodge Caravan 6 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic

My cruise control stopped working. The light does not come on. I looked for fuse but could not find on for the cruise control.
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Does the horn work? If not, suspect a broken clock spring under the steering wheel. That's the most common cause of an inoperative cruise control. The clock spring is a wound-up ribbon cable that also has circuits for the horn and air bag. Eventually the "air bag" light will come on too when the ribbon cable breaks completely.

Also try holding the brake pedal up with your toes while driving. There's a circuit in the brake light switch for the cruise control, but as I recall, if the switch is out of adjustment, the cruise light should still turn, it just won't set a speed.

Good observation about the light. Wish more people noticed such clues.

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Its called a clock spring very common and they had it recalled under certain conditions
need your VIN # and correct mileage
call your local dodge dealer it will take few minutes to verify if yours covered or not
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Why did the cruise control stop working on my 1997 Dodge Caravan?
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https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/55316_97caravancruise_1.jpg


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/55316_97caravancruise2_1.jpg

There is no fuse or relay controlling this function. Most of the time, it will be either the brake switch is faulty or the cruise control servo (vacuum operated) is malfunction or leaking vacuum.
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have a dodge 1997 sport caravan. the cruise control is no longer working. it was working intermittently but now it does not work at all.
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If the green light on the dash doesn't turn on, suspect the clock spring. That's a wound up ribbon cable under the steering wheel. As it continues to break, eventually the horn will stop working too, and the air bag light will turn on.
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my airbag light is on all the time! I think the horn still works...but I haven't had to use that lately. thanks! Is this a hard thing to fix?
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Not especially hard to replace but you'll need a steering wheel puller. Before you spend money on parts, it's a good idea to be sure it's what you need. Find a mechanic with a scanner that can access the air bag computer to read the fault code(s). If the clock spring is defective, the fault code will be something to the effect of "Open Squib Circuit", or "open initiator". If that's what shows up, I can describe the replacement procedure but you'll need the new part first. Some have a long cable that has to be fished down the steering column. Some have a connector up on top.
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Hi guys -

My cruise control stopped working recently and I wanted to check the fuse (or switch?) to see if it was blown. Where is it located in the car?

Bonus question: My Airbag light is always on as well. Where is the fuse for that?

Thanks so much!

Robin Olsson
Pensacola, FL
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It's not a fuse for sure and next to go is the horn Very common and almost 100% sure its clock spring It was so common that they had a recall on it Best way to make sure and verify check for airbag codes


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/99387_Graphic2_326.jpg

CLOCKSPRING Clockspring connects air bag module to steering column wiring, completing SRS circuit. Inside clockspring is a flat, ribbon-like tape of conductive material, which winds and unwinds with steering wheel movement. Clockspring is most fragile part of air bag system. Clockspring must be centered properly to allow 2 1/2 steering wheel turns in either direction. Failure to align clockspring properly may cause binding or premature clockspring failure


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/99387_Graphic_66.jpg


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/99387_Graphic1_712.jpg

Set steering wheel and front wheels in straight ahead position. Disable air bag system. Clockspring is located behind steering wheel. Remove air bag module and steering wheel Disconnect horn connector. Remove cruise control switch and connector (if equipped). Remove upper and lower steering column shrouds to gain access to clockspring wiring. Remove multi-function switch. Disconnect 2-way and 4-way connectors between clockspring and instrument panel wiring harness. Remove clockspring by releasing 2 tabs on side of clockspring. Clockspring cannot be repaired and must be replaced if faulty. Installation Snap clockspring onto steering column. If clockspring centering adjustment is disturbed, adjust clockspring. Connect clockspring wiring connectors. Install steering column covers. Install steering wheel. Ensure flats on steering wheel hub fit formations on inside of clockspring. Pull horn wire through small upper hole and clockspring and cruise control wires (if equipped) through larger bottom hole in steering wheel. Connect horn and cruise control wires (if equipped). Connect clockspring wire to air bag module. To ensure complete connector connection, latching arms must be visible on top of connector housing.
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my brother in law took my van down to disneyland and when he came back, my AC/heater no longer worked. it doesn't even blow the air from outside. we changed the relay, changed the fuses, grounded a battery and tested the motor, it still ran, just no AC/heater. about 6 months ago, my horn and cruise control stopped dead and don't work anymore.

someone help please! winter time is around the corner, i can't drive my kids in a frozen van!!!
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With the heater on and the engine running at operating temp, do both heater core hoses get hot?
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[quote:ed637f1708="Jacobandnickolas"]With the heater on and the engine running at operating temp, do both heater core hoses get hot?[/quote:ed637f1708]

i wouldn't even know that, can you give me directions on how to check that?
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Not a problem. If you look along the firewall of the engine compartment, you will see where two rubber heater core hoses (aprox 1" OD) attach on the firewall. They are attached to the heater core. If the core is plugged, only one of the hoses will be hot and the other warm. Let me know what you find and don't be afraid to ask questions. That is why we are here.
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can you tell me exactly where to find it? i've been looking for diagrams all morning to locate it but i just can't seem to find it. do you have any other suggestions for me to look at as possible culprits?
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You should find it on the driver's side behind the ABS actuator. This is the best picture I could find.
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^ there's no picture attached
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Sorry, I didn't realize. The format won't allow me to upload it. Check where I mentioned to see if you can find the 2 black hoses and let me know.
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cruise control stopped working cannot find fuse location.
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Hello,

There is no fuse for the cruise control operation on your vehicle. The electronic control is handled by your vehicle's Power-train Control Module (PCM) or "computer" and as such, does not require a fuse to protect a separate circuit. I have have included in the diagrams down below a description of your vehicle's cruise control system as well as a couple of factory diagnostic tests to figure out what is going on with the system. Please go through this guide and get back to us with what you are able to find out.

Thanks,
Alex
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my cruise control and horn doesn't work, how do i fix this and what is the possible cause?

1996 Dodge Grand Caravan, 201273 miles, 3.3L
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Clock spring. It's a wound up ribbon cable in a round housing under the steering wheel. Eventually, as it continues breaking, the air bag light will turn on too and the system will be disabled.

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Cruise will work fine for 2 - 40 miles, then drop off or pick up speed. Shortly after, will quit completely. Won't work again until engine cools.

This system uses a speed sensor with external speedometer cable so the speedometer can't be used for a clue. Speed reading on Chrysler's DRB2 stays steady, never erratic. Solenoid commands stay steady on the DRB2 also.

Don't like to throw parts at a problem, but since I have spare parts, swapped PCM with cruise circuit built in, swapped servo with vacuum hose, swapped control switch. No change in symptoms. The only things left are the wiring harness and speed sensor. Not interested in laying in a snow pile to change the sensor, but my question is:

Could the speed sensor be intermittent even though the value displayed on the scanner stays steady and accurate? This same design sensor, with a reed switch and rotating magnet, on '89 and newer vehicles gave a lot of trouble. They no longer used a separate speedometer cable, so the symptom was the speedometer stayed on "0" for a few miles, and the odometer didn't advance. However, the scanner reading stayed on "0" also. Mine reads properly.

Tried monitoring three actuator wires on servo, but test lights cause the servo to go wide-open-throttle. I plan on trying the same tests with LEDs to see if I can determine which circuit is causing the problem. Since it might speed up or it might slow down, I suspect a bad ground wire or multiple feed wires that are corroded or ribbed through and touching sheet metal, but where?

This vehicle has had amazingly few problems since it was new, but there always was a barely detectable surge when the cruise control was in operation. I would be interested in hearing about another vehicle with the same symptoms and the fix. The PCM, servo, and switch I tried are all used, but they worked fine in the donor vehicle. None of them caused any change in symptoms.

I've been mulling this problem over for a few years, so please offer an answer even if this post is now old.

Thank you very much;
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Solved the problem. Noticed the VSS reading on the scanner was steady but always about 7 miles lower than the actual speed. Popped in a new speed sensor and the cruise has been working great for the last 2,000 miles! Yippee!
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1997 Dodge Caravan, 90,000 miles. Could hear noise from just under steering wheel when manuvering car at low speeds - seemed to be something loose. Recently cruise control does not work. Can I get under the air bag in the steering wheel to see what needs fixing?
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yes u can its just plugged in... youll see it when u get into it.. Disconnect battery just in case..
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Thanks for the response. How do I get the steering wheel cover/padding off to access the wiring underneath?
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there going to be two screws on back of steering wheel one on each side ... Torque bit.. * The bits that look like stars..
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