Codes p0605 and p0700

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Good afternoon,

First, the ECM and the PCM are the same.

The 605 code is the key and it is telling you it needs to be replaced from an internal failure.

You need a new PCM and have to flash it to your car.

Roy

1. Remove speed control servo and bracket and reposition out of the way.
2. Reposition wiring harness out of the way.
3. Remove washer bottle filler neck.

Fig.7 TCM Location
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4. Remove Transmission Control Module (TCM) reposition out of the way.
5. Remove PCM
6. Disconnect PCM 2 40-way connector.

INSTALLATION
The PCM engine control strategy prevents reduced idle speeds until after the engine operates for 320 km (200 miles). If the PCM is replaced after 320 km (200 miles) of usage, update the mileage and vehicle identification number (VIN) in the new PCM. Use the DRB III scan tool to change the millage and VIN in the PCM. If this step is not done a diagnostic trouble code (DTC) may be set and SKIM must be done or car will not start if it is a SKIM equipped car. If a SKIM car you must do a secret key transfer also. Refer to the appropriate Powertrain Diagnostic and the DRB III scan tool.

1. Attach 2 40-way connector to PCM.
2. Install PCM. Tighten bolt to 4 Nm (35 in. lbs.) torque.
3. Install TCM.
4. Install washer bottle filler neck.
5. Reposition wiring harness.
6. Install speed control servo and bracket and tighten fasteners
7. Connect negative battery cable and reprogram radio and clock.
8. Using DRB III scan tool, program mileage and vehicle identification number (VIN) into PCM. Refer to the DRB III scan tool and the appropriate Power-train Diagnostic.

Okay, needs new PCM if you order one on line and give them VIN number and mileage would it not then be plug and play? Just put in and work with out needing any more programming?

I am not a fan of that at all. Sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. You may be lucky and it will be a plug and play. If it does not then it will need to be flashed.

Roy

Where is the best place to get them?the dealer and how much would there's not be plug and play.

The dealer is an option but you can also get one through a parts store. you need to give them the number of the ECM so they can get you the exact item.

They would get you the ECM and then need to program.

About $300.00 for the ECM and $150.00 for the programming.

Roy

Thanks Roy.

You are welcome.

Always glad to help.

Roy

Well I did the PCM with part vin etc. Cleared all codes still in limp mode p0700 and p0605 eventually. now I'm new play with scanner which should be able to read TCM but those are the only codes I can find in read codes. I did have one new one that said p0605 TCM fail. so I'm guessing I need to replace TCM? will try and attach TCM reading picture. also I have cleared codes in at least 3 places I've driven a short distance and the dash light was not lit, but I believe I found still found p0700. I've also have checked for codes car still in limp mode and no codes so with new P0605 TCM figured that is what it needs. I figured the scanner in live data or something to that effect reads input and out put rpm's I believe that and transmission temperature. so I'm pretty sure if I took to transmission shop they would not come up with any other codes than I did.

Well I did the pcm with part vin ect. Cleared all codes still in limp mode p0700 and p0605 eventually now I'm new play with scanner which should be able to read tcm but those are the only codes I can find in read codes I did have one new one that said p0605 tcm fail so I'm guessing I need to replace tcm? will try and attach tcm reading picture also I have cleared codes in at least 3 places I've driven a short distance and the dash light was not lit but I believe I found still found p0700 I've also have checked for codes car still in limp mode and no codes so with new P0605 tcm figured that is what it needs I figured the scanner in live data or something to that effect reads input and out put rpms I believe that and transmission temperature so I'm pretty sure if I took to transmission shop they would not come up with any other codes than I did

Did you use a new or used PCM?

Roy

I believe it would be considered refurbished from all computer resources still supposed to send old one back comes with limited life time warranty just had to do a key learn.

Also I believe if this is relevant P0700 was the only one I could find originally, after putting in pcm the P0605 tcm was in the review of dts and original the scanner pointed to pcm not tcm and because I still don't have any other transmission codes other than P0700 why I was thinking tcm also bad the car with the ignition codes only shows the p1684 and p0700 my scanner for some reason never showed the p1684.

The 605 is for a failed PCM, not a TCM.

The 700 is a general transmission failure code and basically says there are other codes in the transmission module. They will be 700 codes.

Roy

Not sure why scanner said 605 tcm as in picture originally with old pcm it didn't have tcm with the 605 since that was the original question and I know 700 is generic for transmission and after I put pcm in there were no codes and was still in limp mode no light on dash and I believe after a small ride 700 showed up with no light on dash, after I was parked and I think it shows up on reading pcm codes and eventually going back and forth from pcm and tcm the engine light showed up again not moving and what I thought was odd is the tcm said it had no trouble codes. I never get anything cut and dry I think I am cursed. My nose don't work but my dad said the old pcm is fine and the tcm kinda has a slight burnt smell, and on that note I did open old pcm and it is filled with some type of semi clear brown once probably liquid that had a couple of small surface cracks that I would say caused from being 18yrs old and you can't even see the PC board since it is under all that liquid rubber lack of better term obvious it seals it from the weather but there was no visible damage which I would think would also not let a burt smell come out of it, so that is where I am at either the newer pcm is bad? Or slightly burnt smell tcm is bad not exactly sure where that 605 tcm came from .think I'm going to have to put tcm back in and recheck all the codes again I guess I was just hoping it was the tcm since it doesn't seem on read tcm codes it doesn't have any. Sometimes I am probably getting side tracked I also once put pcm in had no codes and the car was still stuck like 2nd gear and there was no light on dash but got the 700 when I hooked up scanner eventually found the 605 under review dtc codes. I hate mysteries and the car only shows 1684 remove power no biggy and 700 it doesn't show the 605.

Got it.

The 605 is an internal process error and needs to be replaced. You cannot see anything externally for the failure.

Rroy

Yes I get that part what I can't figure out with certainty is I see with like a Chrysler pt cruiser or mini van with the same 700 and 605 codes its like a 50/50 split as to replace pcm and replace the tcm and I realize it is a generic code for all cars computer rom error and in one of those other one your self said it was a tcm partly why it drives me crazy lol and the other was until I replaced the pcm my scanner definitely did not have the p0605 with the internal tcm after it. and also 700 of course some where. In there was thinking I needed the tcm also. But if p0605 is definitely only associated with the pcm then I need to send the new pcm back and get another one is what I'm hearing. So I am going to put tcm back in make sure I erase all the data in the scanner and if it brings up both the 605 and 700 I need to send the pcm back and in the event I can only find the 700 like the dash of the car only gives me than I need a tcm. Correct me if I am wrong. Please

If the TCM had failed, it would set a code for that as well. Since you have no other code, it is limited to the PCM.

You are on the correct track.

Roy

Yes seems to be my luck pretty sure most people get 605 plus another code for get what it is that says the pcm is bad like 601 or something and most people get a 700 and something with that that will say tcm is bad or a transmission sensor but me I only get stuff that makes no sense at all which reminds me of a story my dad told me he worked at a big alarm company and they kept having problems with a alarm at some big house his guy's couldn't figure it out and he finally did and I have now idea how this was tied into the alarm system of the house but it was a bad ground in a under water light in the in the ground pool. And that is how my luck goes. I'd rather the engine blow up or transmission fall out on the ground. At least I would know lol

Going to try something different hope it works one of a couple send one at a time took for ever to load.

That was just a ground I did to TCM case.

I had found some information in review dtc I believed it to be old test drove again and rechecked all the codes with a different answer than 1st video also the check engine light that didn't come on in first video after I shut it off apon restart the check engine came back on (2 minute video takes 20 minutes to upload)if this works at least you know what I saw. And my phone is out of memory have to erase after I send I took pictures of every screen originally but this should be better.

Just sent that with out video. told you I'm cursed. lol

Originally I had a screen just like this the oo1,002 don't know what it meant but how this one was data review it was under dtc review and I don't know what I did to put it in there but when I clicked on them it either said no dtc codes or the 605 and 700 and that is where the picture of the 605 was with the internal tcm came from and in the video after the first one is when I found it again and I erased it and the 17 other ones..in second video there was nothing in there.

17 other what. Codes.

Roy

The Chrysler 001 v.12 if you open them in data stream it would be reading actual sensors that the computer monitors but under review dtc there apparently would be old codes that stored there when you clicked on one but how they got there. I don't know what I did to get them there. like the picture that says data stream. in that picture if you open those it is reading each sensor but in that other category it had either no dtc under it or 605 and 700 and that one I sent before 605 internal tcm and the 605 and 700 shown the same way as in video. so basically what I seen there I don't understand the scanner enough to no how I got the codes. but after I cleared the review page none of the codes came back there.

They showed up like this for the other 17 it was just repeat of the same thing this picture you can see there numbered 1,2,3 so say I opened the 003 one these 3 were there if I opened 004 it might say no dtc codes and 005 might of been 0700 by its self but I think they started collecting their since the first time I used it so the video was today since I spoke with you earlier I put tcm back in erased all codes or so I thought I missed resetting the review dtc ones on the first video and the second video I erased the codes under review dtc and took for another ride and video all the results .

This was the one that had the 605 tcm but after erasing this and all those 001to018 entries under dtc review, code 605 tmc did not show up again just the 605 in the video and under the dtc review after erasing them and test drive it just said no dtc codes just on that one page so I don't think there relevant in one of video I went in there it said no dtc codes.

This was the review screen in video that when I clicked on top line it said no dtc codes .but it had dtc codes just not on that top line it was in the other screens in video. That makes it confusing basically the videos are all after I said I would put my tcm back in clear all codes still new pcm in it and video is the result so we were at send newer pcm back because we still have 605 code or get a new tcm.

I understand.

Roy

So based on the codes in the video what is your opinion take back PCM or get TCM?

I see no indication of a TCM at all.

Again, the 605 is for a PCM internal failure.

Roy

Did you respond? I got a notification but no response.

Roy

Yes, I did lol basically will take me a week minimum to get a new one. it takes them one to three days to program and test and I paid extra to get it in two days. I have return box and label to send my old one back I will just use it to send same one back. cross my fingers next one will work. course I'm assuming it just went and nothing in the car made it go bad power has to work or it couldn't tell you it's bad and the car runs to well for something to be shorted and not working or setting off other codes.

That's why I never get them online.

Roy

I wouldn't have if my situation didn't leave me with a severe lack of funds supposedly they program them and also test them with a some program that is supposed to simulate all the engine functions so it sounded like you couldn't get a bad one lol pick me I can prove that theory wrong think the older days you could buy a brand new one from the dealer for a little over a hundred and people were complaining I made it 50yrs and never had to replace one till now.

I understand completely.

Roy

Forgot to get back to after I bought the PCM and it didn't fix the problem on the 2001 lhs Chrysler code p0605 and p0700 I decided to go ahead and ordered the TCM although you said pcm and when I got the TCM I still had p0605 and p0700 so I went up to transmission shop he got the same codes but he said that it is the TCM I told him I just put one in he said he gets bad new parts all the time so I sent it back 2 weeks later I got the TCM back that I sent them for a total of 3 weeks with out a car put TCM in p0605 and p0700 disappear and car was fixed with TCM limp mode went away and car shifted like butter

Good job. Glad to hear it is fixed for you.

The 605 code does not indicate a TCM at all but I was not there to diagnose it.

Roy