1985 Chevy Silverado hydralic clutch

1985 CHEVROLET SILVERADO
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CORKYDRIVN
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Transmission problem
1985 Chevy Silverado V8 Four Wheel Drive Manual

Installed new clutch assembly along with clutch master and clutch slave. Bled the system and finally got a hard peddle. When I try to shift gears I have to go all the way to the floor and reverse wont shift. Turn off the truck and it shifts fine. The first time I bled the system it shifted easier, but you still had to put the clutch to the floor. The second time i bled the system and moved the truck you had to force the truck into gear. Need Help any ideas
Jul 25, 2010 at 5:41 PM
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Hi there,

Thank you for the donation,

Do you have any free play in the pedal, how far does the pedal go down before pressure is felt? do this with your hand to judge it better.

mark (mhpautos)
Jul 25, 2010 at 7:13 PM
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peddle is hard and about 1" freeplay
Jul 25, 2010 at 7:18 PM
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Can you measure the clutch slave cylinder movement with the pedal down, how far does the slave move in total? does the clutch fork feel loose, did you check and lube the release bearing movement on the nose of the transmission? did it have free and non binding movement?

mark (mhpautos)
Jul 25, 2010 at 7:29 PM
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1" travel, the fork is not loose yes lubedand it slid free.
Jul 25, 2010 at 7:40 PM
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OK, just trying to locate your can on Mitchell 1 data base, and a silverado does not come up for Chev in that year.... as i am in Australia i don't know what else it may come under, was told a C1500 but that was not there, is there any other I.D that you can help me with here,

Thanks, mark.
Jul 25, 2010 at 8:00 PM
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It is a 1985 3/4 ton 4X4 Chevy Silverado
Jul 25, 2010 at 8:14 PM
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Hi there, still not coming up in the data base for some reason, so i just sent an SOS to other mods in the US to help me track down the tech info i need, will post as soon as i get any replies.

mark (mhpautos)
Jul 25, 2010 at 8:38 PM
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Thank You Mark

I'm on solar power here in Arizona about 75 miles from anywhere. If I don't answer back, the power ran low and I'll be on at sun up. Nothing buy clouds and rain

George
Jul 25, 2010 at 8:49 PM
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Thanks for that,

I will post and await your response in good time.

mark
Jul 25, 2010 at 9:32 PM
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Recheck and test the clutch master cylinder.
Jul 25, 2010 at 10:09 PM
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suns up Mark, any ideas yet?
Jul 26, 2010 at 9:39 AM
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checked master cylinder & bled the system from the slave cyl. have a hard peddel about 1" freeplay in peddel. 1" travel in slave cyl.
Jul 26, 2010 at 9:55 AM
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Mark are you there? Did you come up with some answers for me?
Jul 26, 2010 at 9:06 PM
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Hi there,

sorry, had some family issues to deal with, i will sit down this evening my time (it's 3-00PM now) and send some info, just popped in from work so i don't have time just now, just wanted to let you know that i have not forgotten about it.

mark
Jul 27, 2010 at 12:14 AM
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Hi there,

Well after all that messing around i found what i was looking for,and you say that you have about 1" travel at the slave cylinder, well that is what i was looking for, so as far as i can ascertain so far the hydraulic system is working correctly, so i am wondering if there is a problem with some form of contaminate on the clutch surface.
Jul 27, 2010 at 6:22 AM
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Further to that last post,

With new clutch assemblies, the pressure plate is coated with an anti rust compound, if so was this removed?
i feel that this will be a mechanical issue with the clutch assembly, i do think that the box will have to be removed and the clutch ass inspected for any faults.

mark (mhpautos)
Jul 27, 2010 at 6:30 AM
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Hello Mark.
Sorry I didn't get back sooner had some computer issues. I am pulling the box tomorrow, will let you know what I find. George
Jul 27, 2010 at 8:43 PM
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We have a job at work with similar problem, fairly good pedal feel good through at the cylinder, we pulled the box to find that the clutch fork was cracked and bending rather than operating the clutch, main problem was the fork pivot ball was not lubed and that was where the crack started, it had a new clutch not long ago, the mechanic didn't re lube the pivot, this was a 2 WD Toyota Hi-Lux.

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Jul 28, 2010 at 5:55 PM
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Pulled the box Thursday and didn't find anything wrong. The clutch fork is OK and the pivot ball is well lubed. Clutch disk is in the right way all looks good. the pressure plate measures 1/4" higher then the old one don't know if that makes a difference. The clutch set came from NAPA Auto Parts and they only listed one for the year of my Truck. I've been rained out the last two days, so when it dries up I'm going to the chevy dealer and have them look at the old and new clutch to see what they think. I'll let you know.

George
Jul 31, 2010 at 12:15 PM
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HI George, late night here it's 3-30 AM, well i think that the pressure plate is going to be the fault, i get a few different part No's depending on which V8 engine, this may help.


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/61395_Capture_64.jpg

Mark.
Jul 31, 2010 at 12:28 PM
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Hi Mark, Your up late!

Are those GM part numbers?

George
Jul 31, 2010 at 1:58 PM
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Hi, this table came from Mitchell 1 so i would be expecting them to be genuine.

mark
Jul 31, 2010 at 6:54 PM
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I've been through this very same thing. The problem is I can't exactly remember. Been so long. I had a wrong part. For some reason I want to say pressure plate was wrong for disk. I remember every symptom you're describing. Had to get the rpms up high and shift as they dropped so I wasn't having to force it in gear
Engaged pretty close to the top. My best friend who's past actually figure it out. 2nd time Trans came out. Hope I'm wrong in your case.
Mar 20, 2023 at 12:00 AM