1988 Chevy Celebrity WON'T START

1988 CHEVROLET CELEBRITY
65,000 MILES • 4 CYL • FWD • AUTOMATIC
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CTARCHER
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MY CAR STOPPED RUNNING AS I WAS DRIVING DOWN THE HWY, AS THOUGH YOU HAD TRUNED THE KEY OFF. IT WOULD NOT RESTART. I AM NOT GETTING ANY FUEL FROM THE INJECTOR. YOU CAN POUR FUEL IN THE TB AND IT WILL RUN A FEW SECONDS. I HAVE REPLACED THE INJECTOR, FUEL PUMP, PUMP RELAY, FUEL FILTER, AND THE ECM. I HAVE CHECKED ALL THE GROUNDS THAT I COULD FIND. I AM STILL NOT GETTING ANY GAS TO THE TB FROM THE INJECTOR.
Apr 21, 2008 at 6:33 PM
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are you getting gas to the injectors?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

if not check for voltage at fuel pump with key on and cranking, if nothing check the relay, if its good and no gas is coming out pump is bad.

next to check the injectors throw a noid light to the wiring connectors and crank the engine, it should flash, if not you have no injector pulse. let me know what you find.
Apr 21, 2008 at 8:14 PM
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The fuel pump is running when you first turn on the ignition, and I am pretty sure that I am getting gas to the injector as when the old injector was in the car, the plastic was broken-the reason for replacement, I jumpered the ground side and it sprayed fuel. Is a noid light just a 12v light that you connect to the injector connector? I suspect that I might not be getting any pulses. Is the pulses sent from the same module that fires the spark plugs, and can it be replaced seperately from the coils to the spark plug?
Apr 25, 2008 at 12:27 PM
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i dont know if your model has a crank shaft sensor on the account of the age of the vehicle.

the injectors should have constant 12v with the key on. when the engine is cranking or running the computer groudns out the harness causing the pulse to happen.

it collects this information from the crank and cam position sensor, MAF sensor, coolant temp sensor, iat sensor, and o2 sensors.

a noid light is a solenoid light

not a regular 12v light, use a noid light.
Apr 25, 2008 at 4:40 PM
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where can I get this noid light, from a autoparts store or is this a dealer item. I have never heard of a noid light, but I am old school, carb, dist, and spark plugs.
Apr 25, 2008 at 6:12 PM
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a noid light can be bought or rented at any autopart store just about.

be sure you have a volt meter also.
Apr 25, 2008 at 6:49 PM
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CTARCHER
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[quote:c89c594b93="ctarcher"]where can I get this noid light, from a autoparts store or is this a dealer item. I have never heard of a noid light, but I am old school, carb, dist, and spark plugs.[/quote:c89c594b93]

I got the noid light and hooked it up. I did not get any flashes when I cranked the engine.
May 10, 2008 at 3:52 PM
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I got the noid light and hooked it up. No flashes when the engine is being cranked.
May 10, 2008 at 4:06 PM
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BLACKOP555
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next check for power with the key on, should be constant positive.

there should be no ground untill the engine is cranked, should flash not stay lit.

if you have the + with key on but no ground suspect a bad crank or cam position sensor or ecm.
May 10, 2008 at 5:46 PM
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Engine Performance problem
1988 Chevy Celebrity 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic 154000 miles

i have an 88 chevy celebrity that wont start it has sat for 2 years. we got it to start drove it for a day then it hasnt started since.we have changed the fuel filter put 2 new computers in it. we are getting fuel to the rail but still wont start will start and stay running with gas being sprayed in the breather tube have any idea what is causeing this?
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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RASMATAZ
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Check the fuel pressure if its within specs and injection pulses
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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Engine Performance problem
1988 Chevy Celebrity 6 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic 160000 miles

MY 1988 CLEBRITY TURNS OVER BUT WONT START.
IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY SPARK AND IVE ALREADY CANGED THE IGNITION MODULE. IT STILL HAS NO SPARK WHAT ELSE COULD I DO TO FIND A SOULUTION TO MY PROBLEM. THANK YOU.
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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DOCFIXIT
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Take a test ligkt to coil check for power then place light on the other trem. crank Does light blink? if so coil
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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Engine Mechanical problem
1988 Chevy Celebrity 4 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic 134000 miles

hey my aunts 1988 chevy celebrity 4 cyl died on me the other day when i stopped at a red light, i went to start it but it didnt start. so i then added gas to its carborator and it started up n i reved it up and then dropped it in to 2nd, and drove it in to the parking lot. then it died. went to start it again and it didnt start, so i added gas to the carborator and it started up when i put my foot on the gas pedal. then when i went to put it in to drive it stalled n wouldnt start, it wont start with out having gas put in the carborator. what could be the issue? i had the fuel pump fuel filter and fuel injector replaced all at the same time about 3 or 4 months ago. i just need help to figure this out. thanks
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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Hello, when you first turn the key on, no crank, can you hear the pump run for a couple of seconds? Check fuel pressure, use a gage.

There is a prime connector, underhood, driverside, firewall, between the master cylinder and fender. Shows to be gray wire with electrical connector, nothing plugged into it. It should be in plain site. Use a jumper wire, run voltage to the connector, the pump should run, you don't have to use the key. Use an inline fuse on the jumper, just in case. right now, I'm all for checking out the fuel pump/circuits.
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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Engine Performance problem
1988 Chevy Celebrity 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic 128,00 miles

engine cranks but no fire. does get gas but no spark at plugs need help
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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JDL
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Welcome fordman, engine cranking, is there injector spray pattern? If no spray pattern and no spark, I'd look for rpm signal comes from crank sensor goes to ignition module, from module to pcm. I'd also check B+ and ground at the ignition module. Any codes?
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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Electrical problem
1988 Chevy Celebrity 6 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic 110000 miles

I'm at a loss, trying to clean up a mess left by another mechanic. I've got good fuel pressure, injector pulse, new ign module & tune up. I also swapped the ECM from another running 2.8 Celebrity. The car still has no spark. What am I missing?
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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RASMATAZ
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No snapping blue spark continue to troubleshoot the ignition system-power input to the coil/coil packs,distributor pick-up coil, ignition control module, cam and crank sensors- Note: If it doesn't apply disregard it
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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JIM SHANNON
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I have changed coil packs and spark plug wires along with plugs but I must have crossed plug wires since the car will not start. Can you tell me from the coil packs which wire goes to each plug
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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WRENCHTECH
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First you have to tell us what engine you have.
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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JIM SHANNON
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2.8 six cylinder
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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I was just given the car and it does not start. It gets spark, and cranks, but I don't think it's getting fuel. It had the pump replaced around 30,000 miles ago, but that was like 4 yrs ago. A mechanic said that it needs to be replaced again. Is there any other likely fixes, I'd like to start simple before I make it complicated. Any ideas?
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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ASEMASTER6371
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a fuel pump is not complicated. it is a straight forward job. there is a fuse behind the right front headlight for it and if it is blown, then the pump is seized.

Roy
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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So if it's a 20 amp fuse, it's not blown. But I can't hear the fuel pump when I turn the key to the on position either. Any other ideas?

Where is the fuel pump relay located so I can start simple and work from there?
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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right where the fuse was located. there is a single primer wire that when you apply 12 volts it goes right to the pump and bypasses all controls.

Roy
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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WOLFENPIXELS
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check for proper fuel supply first then look at filter and sock of the fuel pump. common on older vehicles.
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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scan for codes and check fuel pressure first. fp should be 41-47 psoi
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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Will not start.
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:22 AM (Merged)
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REPO
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So I checked the fuse, and if it's a 20 amp fuse its intact.

When the ignition is in the "on" position, I can't hear the fuel pump. I would like to try to keep the repair cost as low as possible for now so I would like to replace the fuel pump relay first. Anyone able to tell me where that is? Also if anyone has any other idea as to what might be causing it not to start, I am all ears...
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:23 AM (Merged)
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HMAC300
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try smacking fuel tank with palm of hand hard. sometimes they start, dont'know for how long but it works sometimes. if you have a 2.5L it's on the right side of firewall rear of engine. 2.8Lpic attached.
Aug 14, 2017 at 10:23 AM (Merged)