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1995 CHEVROLET S-10
155,000 MILES • 4.3L • V6 • RWD • AUTOMATIC
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MORDACAIE
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About six months ago to a year my starter went out on my truck. I bought a new starter then took it to the shop due to it being cheaper and had them replace it. When I got home the truck had issues starting and was dropping down to eight volts from thirteen volts standing. The truck did start and this continued, I changed out batter cables, cleaned connections, bought a new batter, new alternator and even took the starter off after I figured out how and checked the connections to see what was wrong. The connections to the starter was good so I took the starter up had it tested at three different shops, they said it was good. Now my truck just will not start. I checked the teeth to the fly wheel and it does not sound like it has frozen up at all. Really really stuck and not sure what to do! Please Help! video of what is happening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi6zWnAzGlo&feature=youtu.be
Sep 11, 2016 at 6:25 PM
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actually shims make it quieter when it turns over but it may help. if it does not turn over at all check battery for condition including load test most places do for free.
Sep 12, 2016 at 6:42 AM
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MORDACAIE
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Yes i did that. It is a brand new battery also new cables, new starter, new alternator. Review video for how it sounds and what all I have done to it so far.
Sep 12, 2016 at 7:04 AM
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it comes up with over a hundred videos under that voltage will normally drop at least two volts when you start a car/truck unless its 'been modified, check ground on engine as well as body for corrosion also due to age of truck i'd suggest running another ground from engine to frame as well as body as there may have been grounds removed like ones off of back of cylinder head to body. that is one of the most common grounds removed and never put back on. it may be due to this.
Sep 12, 2016 at 7:25 AM
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MORDACAIE
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And yes it is new battery cables that are ran positive and negative even to the starter. i also cleaned where it attaches to the frame the grounds. Two go to my frame and one to the engine for the grounds. i cleaned all three where they attach to.
Sep 12, 2016 at 7:39 AM
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how about battery to body and engine to body?
Sep 12, 2016 at 11:57 AM
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MORDACAIE
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Where would that ground be located? The only grounds i see from engine is one to battery then one that goes from engine to starter.
Sep 12, 2016 at 12:04 PM
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MORDACAIE
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I will search when i get home and update will come back then. Thanks
Sep 12, 2016 at 12:14 PM
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I already said where the ground was in an earlier reply. also just because a battery is new doesn't mean it's any good. have a load test done on it. then have a mechanic do a draw test on starter. a lot of times auto parts check it and it's no good as well.
Sep 12, 2016 at 1:01 PM
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MORDACAIE
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Yes sir, thank you.
Sep 12, 2016 at 1:08 PM
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MORDACAIE
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Okay test done on both and both were good. Battery recharged aswell, put them both back in. Recleabing ground connectiions in a moment.
Sep 12, 2016 at 1:27 PM
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This is the only other i could find attached to the frame is this the other ground?
Sep 12, 2016 at 4:06 PM
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that is a body ground not frame just turn one to the frame. this should really be checked out by a pro instead of these endless emails. when the battery was load tested how far did voltage drop? if it went below 9 volts the battery Is bad and it should read at least 12.4 volts when at a low charge if it reads below then it's bad.
Sep 12, 2016 at 4:40 PM
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MORDACAIE
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Thanks for your help
Sep 12, 2016 at 4:57 PM
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Please let us know what you find so it will help others.

Best, Ken
Sep 14, 2016 at 8:17 PM
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95 Chevy S10 2.2L Engine, auto trans. Was running fine then one day it would not start. It cranks but doesn't start. I checked for gas and spark and they were fine. When I removed the Spark Plugs they were wet with gas. I just replaced them and tried again and nothing. checked Spark Plugs and they are wet again. Replaced the orings on the injectors and nothing. Checked for any codes on Computer and there's none. Any recomendations as to what to check next?
May 17, 2019 at 7:40 PM (Merged)
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if you think the spark is fine it has to be a large blue spark. check your crank an dcam sensors.
May 17, 2019 at 7:40 PM (Merged)
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I turn the key and I'll have dash lights but engine wont crank. If I push start it or jump it, the truck will act fine for a day or so. I have a New Battery, and a new ignition switch have already been installed. When the switch was instslled the truck was fine for 3 days. Then back to the same problems.
May 18, 2019 at 11:02 AM (Merged)
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Check for 12 volts at the small wire on the starter with key in crank position. If it has power then the starter needs to be replaced. If none, then use the test light to check the clutch switch. Should haev power on one side, then the other when the clutch is pushed in
May 18, 2019 at 11:02 AM (Merged)
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prior to the way it is now you could rock the ignition switch back and forth a few times and it would start, now however the only way to start it is to push start the truck, or to run a direct wire from the battery to the starter silonide and removing it once it starts. Prior to my problems the ignition switch and the black box with the wires were replaced brand new, about a year later is when this problem started. I have checked and had tested the starter and solenoid they were both fine, the clutch pedal safty switch is working fine, the battery is only 6 months old, I have ran out of ideas on this problem if you can help it would be grately appreciated. :?:
May 18, 2019 at 11:02 AM (Merged)
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I will tell you this, if the positions on the switch work, acc, on ,start springs back to on, then you may have a bad fusible link, tug on the thin wires that connect to the starter, if they stretch, replace the link! If the switch position dont work replace the switch...
May 18, 2019 at 11:02 AM (Merged)
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Electrical problem
1993 Chevy S-10 6 cyl Four Wheel Drive Automatic

I have a 1993 s10 blazer that doesn't turn over when the switch is turned all the way to start. Headlights come on bright,fuel pump comes on,digital dash lights up,battery has 12.1 volts with no load,and when you turn on headlights,or turn key to start,it doesn't show any volts dropping form the volt meter I had attached directly to the battery.I have tried moving the steering column up and down ,pullling the shifter up and down.What next?I am currently having it towed home so I can look at it closer and where it is warmer.
May 18, 2019 at 11:03 AM (Merged)
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Hello –

So if I understand……you turn the key all the way to start and nothing….no noise, no click…no nothing.

If this is so to me it is either your starter or your ignition switch.

I would take jumper cables and connect the positive to the positive side of the battery then touch the other end to the starter at the bolt where the positive cable connects. There will be a spark…..

MAKE SURE THE CAR IS IN PARK AND EMERGENCY BRAKE SET…PLEAE BE SAFE!

Next, if the starter turns over then most likely it isn’t the starter I would say it is the ignition switch. For the ignition switch you would have to go into the column…….I have info on how to change but not how to check.

Please tell me your engine size in liter and if the starter check works for you.
May 18, 2019 at 11:03 AM (Merged)
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[quote:a066cca813="ImpalaSS"]Hello –

So if I understand……you turn the key all the way to start and nothing….no noise, no click…no nothing.

If this is so to me it is either your starter or your ignition switch.

I would take jumper cables and connect the positive to the positive side of the battery then touch the other end to the starter at the bolt where the positive cable connects. There will be a spark…..

MAKE SURE THE CAR IS IN PARK AND EMERGENCY BRAKE SET…PLEAE BE SAFE!

Next, if the starter turns over then most likely it isn’t the starter I would say it is the ignition switch. For the ignition switch you would have to go into the column…….I have info on how to change but not how to check.

Please tell me your engine size in liter and if the starter check works for you.

Thank you very much for the donation

Please let us know if what the final fix was for your car so we can better assist others. Thanks!

Find a car repair manual for your car repair questions.[/quote:a066cca813]Well by accident I found out that it must have been a the starter not grounded well.When I was underneath checking the voltage of the purple wire,I had my son turn the ignition switch to the start and it showed that I had 12 .3 volts . I had the starter unbolted so that I could reach the connections with the voltage tester and the starter body slipped off to the side touching the frame which in turn made the starter turn . I pulled the starter away from the frame again and turned the ignition switch to the start position and the starter didn't turn.I then bolted the starter back on and it started the engine right up. Everything good now ,who would guess something this little.Thanks again.
May 18, 2019 at 11:03 AM (Merged)
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Hello –

Fantastic and thanks for the info.

Oh yes my friend………it is always best to start with a good general look over as you did, touching, shaking, pulling etc. There have been times I have spent an hour looking for a cause when it was something very simple that I should have caught by first just giving it a good visual or checking a fuse.

Glad you found the problem!
May 18, 2019 at 11:03 AM (Merged)
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i have tried to start my car but the engine wont turn over, i took my starter to a local autozone but it was still good. ive also tried my battery it was dead they charged it, but the car still wont turn over. the car turns on the lights come on and all its just not making any noise, i checked my fuses not that either. what could it be?
May 18, 2019 at 11:03 AM (Merged)
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check items in pic
May 18, 2019 at 11:03 AM (Merged)
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is it an automatic or manual?make sure that the ground cable is clean and tight,not just on the battery but on the block to.if it is an auto try to start it in neutral with your foot on the brake.it sounds like either a neutral safety switch,a bad ground or a seized motor.can you turn the motor over by hand? does it atleast make a clicking noise when you try to crank it?
May 18, 2019 at 11:03 AM (Merged)
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Once a month for the last three months my S-10 has quit running. It turns over but dosen't want to start. I have replaced the fuel pump, filter and the ignition module. The repair shop has put it on the "computer" but can find nothing wrong. Sometimes after a day at the shop it just starts as if nothing is wrong. Sometimes this happens when the truck has been running for quite a while. I'll driving along and it just quits. This has become more frequent now and doesn't start at all.
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https://www.2carpros.com/first_things/car_cranks_but_wont_start.htm
Use this link for in depth troubleshooting of this problem!
May 18, 2019 at 11:03 AM (Merged)
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turns over won't crank,head lights won't come on horn won't blow ,interior light won't come on
May 18, 2019 at 11:03 AM (Merged)
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Check and test the fusible link/all fuses and ignition switch if okay-Do below

Get a helper disconnect a sparkplug wire or 2 and ground it to the engine at least 3/16 away from ground -have helper crank engine over-do you have a snapping blue spark? If so-you have a fuel related problem,Do you hear the fuel pump come On when you turn key on? If not check fuel pump fuse and fuel pump relay if so, check the fuel pressure to rule out the fuel filter/fuel pump/pressure regulator and listen to the injector/s are they pulsing or hook up a noid light. No snapping blue spark continue to troubleshoot the ignition system-power input to the coil/coil packs,coil's resistances,distributor pick-up coil, ignition control module, cam and crank sensors and computer Note: If it doesn't apply disregard it
May 18, 2019 at 11:03 AM (Merged)
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On my 2.8L V6 '93 Chevy S-10 Pickup, my clutch was replaced after it had completely gone out due to wear. The flywheel was fine. The truck drove beautifully for several weeks with no problems. One day I parked at a restaurant, ate, came out and it would not start. When I turned the key, it made a loud whirring sound with no signs of turning over. When I towed the truck out of there, I got it started by popping the clutch into first gear with the vehichle in motion. Drove it for 35 miles with no problems. Got it to the garage. We replaced the starter to no avail. We removed the shim that was originally on the starter to reduce the clearance between the starter pinion and the flywheel and that did nothing. The teeth on the flywheel look fine.
May 18, 2019 at 11:04 AM (Merged)
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Did you replace the solonoid w/starter,if you did you have a bad starter.
May 18, 2019 at 11:04 AM (Merged)
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The starter was not replaced when the clutch was replaced. We replaced the starter after it wouldn't start and it was doing the same thing, making the same noise and not turning over, but I'll test the new (rebuilt) starter today.
May 18, 2019 at 11:04 AM (Merged)
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Just put a new battery in the truck and it won't turn over, truck has been sitting for a little bit
May 18, 2019 at 11:04 AM (Merged)
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Do you mean it cranks over and will not start or just won't crank at all/nothing/nada?

Cranks and w/n start

Get a helper disconnect a sparkplug wire or 2 and ground it to the engine at least 3/16 away from ground -have helper crank engine over-do you have a snapping blue spark? If so-you have a fuel related problem, check the fuel pressure to rule out the fuel filter/fuel pump/pressure regulator and listen to the injector/s are they pulsing or hook up a noid light. No snapping blue spark continue to troubleshoot the ignition system-power input to the coil/coil packs,coil's resistances,distributor pick-up coil, ignition control module, cam and crank sensors and computer Note: If it doesn't apply disregard it

No crank at all/nothing/nada:

Could be the starter, starter relay, park and neutral switch and ignition switch assuming the battery and connections are good.
May 18, 2019 at 11:04 AM (Merged)
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engine wont turn, just a click
May 18, 2019 at 11:04 AM (Merged)
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No crank at all/nothing/nada:

Could be the starter, starter relay, park and neutral switch and ignition switch assuming the battery and connections are good.
May 18, 2019 at 11:04 AM (Merged)
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pull out the starter ,using jumper cables neg to ground the casing pos to jump between solinoid and pos onthe starter ,hold on tight if the starter kicks over strong it's ok if solinoid clicks and nothing else happens have your stater rebuilt or buy a new one , if it works put socket on crank bolt turning clock wise try to roll over the motor to make sure its not seized. good luck
May 18, 2019 at 11:04 AM (Merged)