Cam sensor location

2006 MERCURY MARINER
150,050 MILES • 3.0L • 6 CYL • 4WD
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Two days ago check engine light came on. Within an hour, the car started running horribly and engine was chattering. I put the diagnostic on it and it threw several codes. Cam sensor, crank sensor, 02 sensor, EVAP, cylinder four misfire, and bank 1 running lean. I talked to my buddy who said could just be the crank sensor throwing everything off. I changed one but was told there are two. I have checked diagrams but the other sensor is not where they show. Please help. And do you think it is just the cam sensor causing all that? Before this I have had no issues with the car. Oh, the sensor I changed was on the passenger side at the front of the front valve cover.
Jun 8, 2018 at 7:12 AM
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I only see the one crank sensor on the front. With all of these codes all of a sudden like this for all these possible sensors, I would suspect perhaps the power feed five volt voltage to all of them sensors may be low. I would check that first.
Or perhaps a loose ground, I see a G101 for the crank sensor, located passenger side firewall, under hood. Let me see if any others share that ground.
G101 is also for MAF, PCM, transmission range sensor.
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:11 AM
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Okay. How might I go about doing that? Yes, that was all I found was the one cam sensor. This thing had me going crazy for over an hour looking for the second. It is weird how it just went from running fine to running like a slot machine all at once.
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:13 AM
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I do not think the crank and cam sensors actually have a five volt feed, which means they produce their own voltage.
At first you said you were told there were two crank sensors, now I see you thought there were two cam sensors, but I see only one of each.
The camshaft sensor is front of left cylinder head.
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:21 AM
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I would post the trouble codes, then pick out the most important one or the one that maybe appears to be related to the most and just work on that one code for to begin. Then work on the second, and so on.
So, what are the codes?
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:23 AM
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The diagram I checked said there were two on the 3.0 engine. And the guy at the parts store said there were two. But I only found one and it was not where the diagram showed. So I am thinking it was a different engine in the diagram. I am going to run the diagnostic again and see what shows.
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:24 AM
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Can you post that diagram here so I can see it?
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:28 AM
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Po340 camshaft position sensor a bank 1 circuit malfunction. And yes. Let me find it.
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:29 AM
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All the other codes disappeared now.
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:30 AM
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Here is the diagram:
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:32 AM
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Okay, what year engine is that?
Send me the link for that diagram.
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:36 AM
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I have a 2006. I am not sure what year the engine in the diagram is. I searched up for a 2006. Let me go get the link.
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:38 AM
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This is what I have.
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:38 AM
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That is definitely the one I changed. And it is still throwing the code for it.
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:43 AM
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That is my engine for sure.
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:43 AM
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A trouble code does not always mean it is the sensor that is bad, the code points to that sensor's circuit, it could be a wire, a ground, etc.
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:48 AM
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Does the alternator make a lot of noise by chance?
I am also reading a cam sensor not installed correctly can cause this code to come back. Let me get the correct procedure, hold on one.
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:51 AM
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Alternator is only about four months old. Makes no noise.
Jun 8, 2018 at 8:53 AM
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Okay, about the alternator. Just going through the trouble shooting steps, there are thirty pages.
I do not see how the cam sensor can be installed wrong as long as the bolt hole aligns up.
Okay, next, does this cam sensor have two or three wires?
I see two, dark blue/orange and brown/light green, correct?
Jun 8, 2018 at 9:02 AM
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I swear it sounds like the lifter collapsed or something, but I do not if maybe the cam sensor threw it off time and the valves are chattering or something. I do not what is going on at this point. The engine sound has me really concerned.
Jun 8, 2018 at 9:03 AM
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Two wires.
Jun 8, 2018 at 9:05 AM
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I was just reading the variable cam timing can do that and since if the alternator makes noise is a concern I suppose any noise can be, let me find out what I just read.
Jun 8, 2018 at 9:06 AM
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Okay, can you disconnect the plug and check the resistance of the sensor?
Jun 8, 2018 at 9:09 AM
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I have to take the sensor out to unplug it. They only give me an inch of wire.
Jun 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM
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Okay, let me know the resistance before you put it back in too.
Jun 8, 2018 at 9:16 AM
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What do you mean by resistance?
Jun 8, 2018 at 9:17 AM
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The ohm reading using an ohmmeter.
Jun 8, 2018 at 9:23 AM
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Ah. I need to see where my brother in law put it. That might have to wait until this afternoon. He is at work. You have to bare with me. I am old school. All these electronics drive me nuts. I miss the old days. Ha ha. Let me see if I can find it.
Jun 8, 2018 at 9:26 AM
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Great, let me know when you find it, because hopefully it is a multi-meter because the next test will be using the voltmeter.
Good news though it is really only 9 pages and we are done 2, step 8 of 26.
Do not get worried if later If I do not answer right away, I am going outside soon to start some body work on my car. I will check in from time to time, probably every twenty minutes or so.
Jun 8, 2018 at 9:33 AM
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It is a multi-meter. I am just not sure where it ended up. I will let you know as soon as I get my hands on it.
Jun 8, 2018 at 9:36 AM
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347 ohms. Sorry so late my brother in-law just got home.
Jun 8, 2018 at 3:04 PM
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That is good, it should have been 250-1,000 ohms, so that 347 is within that.
Next step:
Disconnect the hardness connector at the PCM, so the crank sensor as no connection to it all.
Then using the DV voltmeter check short circuit to voltage on the harness side of the disconnected crank sensor dark blue/orange wire. If this wire is hot when the key is on run, engine off that find and repair the short, where the hot voltage from a positively charged wire is short circuited to this wire.
If there is no voltage present on this wire, like it should be then move onto step 10.
Let me know your answer and I will post step 10.
Here are 10 and 11. If you feel okay just having all the steps now then let me know which step you have a problem with or any, I can do that and most likely will anyhow.
12 and 13
Jun 9, 2018 at 2:16 AM
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Yeah. You can post the steps. If you would like. The more I am reading, I am wondering if the cam syncronizer did not go bad. It would explain a lot of the issues I am having but I am not sure if it would throw a separate code.
Jun 9, 2018 at 3:36 AM
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We both know that too much noise could cause that code, remember me asking you if the alternator was too loud. I assume they are close to eachother.
If you wan to just skip these steps and replace the cam synchronizer, go ahead. Is it making noise or anything thing else that you know to convince you is it bad?
Just in case he is 13-14.
Jun 9, 2018 at 8:20 AM
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It seems to have dropped oil pressure which is a major symptom of it being the syncronizer. At this point, I have to send it to my buddy's shop. I hate to admit defeat but it may be my best bet.
Jun 9, 2018 at 8:22 AM
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That is up to you.
Jun 9, 2018 at 8:46 AM
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Just a follow up. We are at the shop trying to run down the issue but cannot seem to find a cam sychronizer diagram for this engine. Figured I owed you an update for all of your help.

Jun 13, 2018 at 8:07 AM
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Do you need more help or?
Jun 15, 2018 at 10:55 AM
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No sir. It ended up being a timing issue. But this was a great experience and very helpful. Thank you for the opportunity to receive some help. I greatly appreciate it.
Jun 15, 2018 at 11:01 AM
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Jun 16, 2018 at 10:51 AM