starter replacement ?

1995 BUICK LESABRE
120,000 MILES • 6 CYL • FWD • AUTOMATIC
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ASHLEY LEWIS
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intermittent problem with starter engagement circuit starter tested on bench ok voltage good on wire to solenoid when starter engages do I need to replace it?
Jan 6, 2008 at 8:32 PM
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Check battery earth and pos terminal clean & tight, I would still check or at least clean starter and check solenoid contacts, bench testing is not always fool proof.

This guide will help walk you through the steps

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-a-starter-motor

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Oct 2, 2018 at 12:48 PM
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JEFFERY W
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my car wont start had the starter and batttery checked all good they tell me its the starter relay the lights inside the car go dim but the head lights dont go dim
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:17 AM (Merged)
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first if you have another key try that as the chip may be bad in your key then switch relay with a like relay to see if it's actually the relay or not.

Here is guide to help

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/starter-not-working-repair

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-an-electrical-relay-and-wiring-control-circuit

Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know what happens.
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:17 AM (Merged)
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TEXAS409
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Electrical problem
1994 Buick Lesabre 6 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic 160k miles

Ground Wire on Starter Not stayin Hot after letting go of key after being cranked
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:17 AM (Merged)
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BUDDYCRAIGG
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there is no ground wire for the starter.

and the small wire (probably purple) is not supposed to have power after you let go of the key
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:17 AM (Merged)
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TEXAS409
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yes it is a purple/white stripe wire,but most likely i think it wont stay runnin because security light on dash is blinking
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:17 AM (Merged)
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BUDDYCRAIGG
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[quote:d9812cb13f="texas409"]but most likely i think it wont stay runnin because security light on dash is blinking[/quote:d9812cb13f]

that would do it.

I don't have any experience with resetting the security on a GM.

you should post a new questions describing what the car is doing and that the security light is flashing.

in the mean time, i'll do some snooping for an answer too.
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:17 AM (Merged)
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i've got some more info

General instructions on pass-lock relearn:

So the engine cranks but it wont start? IS the security light flashing? If so try this
GM PASS LOCK RELEARN- Ignition to "run" position, try to start and let key return to "run" position
Approx ten minutes security light will go off
Turn key "off" and wait 5 seconds
Repeat 2 more times for a total of 3 relearns.
Turn key off, then start it
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:17 AM (Merged)
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TEXAS409
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that didnt help me i tried almost everything but now, any one who has VATS problem with there lesabre i highly recommend you to get a VATS BYPASS KIT my car cranked 1st try
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BIGIS2007
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Electrical problem
1994 Buick Lesabre 6 cyl Wheel Drive Type unknown Automatic 112000 miles
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when i turn my key it just does a click noise. my battery is fine. if its the starter where do i find it and how do i change it
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:17 AM (Merged)
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BMRFIXIT
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starter is mounted on the engine/tranny mid of car in front it looks similar to that it mount on by two bolts make sure you Disconnect the battery negative before any work starter wired straight to the battery and series damage can be caused to you or the system if wires touch ground or tools that is grounded


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/99387_starter_2.jpg


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/99387_starter_1_2.jpg

Nov 18, 2020 at 8:18 AM (Merged)
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SUGARBABY1964
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1994 Buick Lesabre 6 cyl Front Wheel Drive

How do you change a starter yourself at home
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:18 AM (Merged)
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BMRFIXIT
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Disconnect negative battery cable.
Raise and support vehicle. As required, remove nuts from A/C compressor, exhaust system and/or engine braces, adjacent to starter.
Remove other items that may interfere with removal of starter.
If necessary, remove nut from engine cross brace. Using pry bar between upper engine mount and engine, pry rearward and support engine.
If necessary, remove oil filter, air induction tube and cooling fan.
Disconnect wiring at starter, and note position.
Remove starter mounting bolts and any shims.
Remove starter.


Installation

Before installation, ensure pinion-to-flywheel clearance is .020" (0.5 mm).
Add or subtract shims as necessary.
To complete installation, reverse removal procedure.
Tighten mounting bolts
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:18 AM (Merged)
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HFA
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Please tell me how to remove the rear starter bolt. I removed plastic flywheel shield, there is another plastic shield that goes under the starter that I can't see how to remove.
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:18 AM (Merged)
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2CARPRO JACK
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Some of those shields have a small 10mm bolt opposite of the starter on the front of the trans.You will have to look up betweent the trans and engine to see it.
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:18 AM (Merged)
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HFA
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There was a 10mm between the oil pan and transmission which held on the flywheel inspection cover, but that didn't release the cover around the starter. No exploded parts diagrams?
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:18 AM (Merged)
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2CARPRO JACK
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Not for something like that.There is another one facing forward (radiator)on the trans, above the starter bolt
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RIVERMAN55
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where is the starter and what is involved in changing it.simple or does it in volve a lot of taking things apart to get to the starter
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:18 AM (Merged)
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ZACKMAN
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If you lie down under the engine, you will see it towards the front of the engine, just a few inches off of the radiator. You will need to remove a flywheel cover (2 bolts) and then you can remove 2 mounting bolts for the starter. Keep in mind that you have two bolts on the starter body that need to come out as well.
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:18 AM (Merged)
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Electrical problem
1993 Buick Lesabre Two Wheel Drive Automatic

i turn the key on and everything comes on in the car but when i turn it more to start it nothing happens. I have put a new starter on it but that wasn't it
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https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/55316_93lesabrestarter_1.jpg

You will need a voltmeter. From underneath the vehicle, probe positive to the battery and black to ground. You should have voltage. Next, probe positive wire to purple wire (ignition) and black to ground. Have someone turn the key to crank. If there is power, bench test the starter. If there is no power, check the fusible link C. If fusible link is good, move shifter out of "PARK" to "NEUTRAL", and re-test. If still no power, check your Neutral Safety Switch.
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:18 AM (Merged)
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Electrical problem
1992 Buick Lesabre 6 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic

Where is the starter located on my car
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:19 AM (Merged)
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BLUELIGHTNIN6
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Starter is at lower left front of engine. If you have difficulties finding it, just follow the positive battery cable, it leads to the starter.
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:19 AM (Merged)
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I replaced the starter on a 3.8 L "C" 8 months ago using the original GM shim on an after market starter from Auto Zone. That starter is now junk as the nose cone has broken off and A Z has replaced it under warranty but that begins my concern. A Z says that can be caused by improper shiming or the part was dropped. I know it was not dropped while in my pocession so I am thinking shimming could be an issue. The replacement starter comes with 3 shims which if you put them together are not as thick as the original GM shim I used. So if I would use the thinner ones the pinion gear would be closer (less clearance) to the flywheel than the thicker one which will drive the gear down away from the flywheel so would I not want to use the original shim? Also the instructions for the replacement says to check the clearance by removing the flywheel inspection cover but I am not sure (at least I do not see one) on this engine. Is there one and I am just not seeing it laying on the ground.
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:19 AM (Merged)
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You pick the shim that will put the pinion gear to the correct clearance to the teeth on the flex plate.
0.025-0.040"

and your dust cover may have already been missing.
some people don't put them back on

I seldom use shims.
I put the starter on.
And before I put the car back on the ground, I pull the ECM fuse so the engine wont start. And hold the key to crank the engine over for 30 seconds or so.
If it sounds normal, I leave it alone.
Only if it sounds funny do I take the time to measure it.
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:19 AM (Merged)
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ROBERT5621
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I recently bought a starter and solenoid replacement for my 1988 Buick LeSabre 6 cylinder 4 door front wheel drive. The old one that I took off did not have any shim to connect to the teeth to actually start the car so when I replaced them I did not use the shims that came with the new starter and solenoid thinking I did not need them but I think that I do because it will not engage with the teeth. My question is: How do I use the shims, where do I place them? They came with 3 shims and a small little rod (the little rod is about 3 inches long and a little thicker than a wire clothes hanger). What is that little rod used for, how many of the shims do I need to use and how do I know if I have it shimed correctly? Please be as detailed as you can. I have a Chilton Manual but it doesn't really mention anything about the shims. Thank you so much for your help in this repair issue. You can email me a response at [email protected]. Again, I really appreciate it. I would make a donation, but I am on disability and have no job. That is why I do all the repairs on my car myself. Because I can not afford to take it to get fixed. Also, is there anything else I need to check as far as the starter and solenoid are concerned? Thanks for the reply. In the answer, you said to use half of a shim on one side or the other. Does this mean that I should cut the shim in half and use the little rod to measure the distance from the starter to the teeth on the fly wheel? Also, does it matter what side I put the shim on? Any and all information you can give me would be very helpful. Maybe even step by step, so I can make sure I do it right. You can email me the additional information, that would be great. Thanks again!

Have a good day,
Mike Thompson
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In general, you use the 1/8 round gage to measure between the flywheel tooth and the armature shaft. By using a half of shim on one side or the other of the starter, you move the armature shaft closer or further from the ring gear.
Nov 18, 2020 at 8:19 AM (Merged)