Drive belt replacement?

2009 KIA RIO
41,000 MILES • 1.6L • 4 CYL • FWD • AUTOMATIC
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KEEGANJDAVIS
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The power steering is tough sometimes, and I have belt squeal when I turn to full lock and when I start it in the morning. While watching the pulleys, when the car is at full lock the belt for the power steering pump stops spinning. The belt is new and just replaced the pump and fluid. The tension on the pump belt is right. The alternator was tested and is fine, the drive belt keeps moving the serp belt for the water pump and alternator, but the water pump pulley stops spinning. I've had no over heating, or loss of engine coolant. No bearing sounds. Have a slight groaning sound while turning wheel sometimes, but that's the only noise besides the belt sliding over the water pump pulley. Any ideas?
Apr 15, 2016 at 8:31 AM
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HMAC300
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if the blet was replaced and you have an auto tensioner that shold have been replaced as well. try using a belt tension gauge on p/s belt it may seem tight but not actually be the gauge will show how tight to make it. also if oil is on belt then throw it away clean the pulley sof oil/grease and put another one on.
Apr 15, 2016 at 10:10 AM
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SHAWNTAYAJ
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I got my alternator changed. Now my car is starting but none of the belts are moving while car is running. I also got a starter and a new battery put on.
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:00 PM (Merged)
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SEVAG P
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hello SHAWNTAYAJ,

Please can you check the routing of the drive belts check fig1?
Let us know what happens with you. Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know if you need anything else to get the problem fixed.
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:00 PM (Merged)
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CGARCIA850
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The power steering belt is loose and worn. When the wheel is turned either way it squeals and seems to slip or jerk. How do I change this belt? Thank you.
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:00 PM (Merged)
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HMAC300
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which belt 1 arrow 2 arrow or 3 arrow or all of them? Check out the diagrams (Below).
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:00 PM (Merged)
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CGARCIA850
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The arrows weren't numbered when I clicked on the picture but its the top right belt.
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:00 PM (Merged)
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HMAC300
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You will have to remove a/c belt first then generator belt see pics. then look for an adjuster for the power steering as that is the one you want to change. Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know if you need anything else to get the problem fixed.
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:00 PM (Merged)
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SCYALATA
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I bought this car and it needs a timing belt. I have replaced the water pump and I am currently trying to put everything back together. The tensioner pulley was off the car when i got it and i am not sure how to put the spring back on....
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:00 PM (Merged)
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SATURNTECH9
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I posted a diagram it goes from the hole on the arm of the tenisor to most likely the other side of the spring goes to a pin sticking up that is screwed into the engine.If you could post a pic that would be great.
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:00 PM (Merged)
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SCYALATA
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the only pin i see is the one coming out of the body of the water pump.
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:00 PM (Merged)
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SATURNTECH9
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Does that pin have a groove cut towards the end of it?Also does it line up with tenisor spring like i showed in the diagram i posted?
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:01 PM (Merged)
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SCYALATA
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The pin in the picture doesnt have a groove, but i found the right pin. does the spring go on before or after i put the timing belt on?
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SATURNTECH9
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I would just put the spring on and leave it on then repalce the belt.Glad to hear you got it all figured out If the spring makes the tenisor get in the way i pull the tenisor pulley out of the way and use the nut or bolt on the tenisor pulley to hold it in palce.
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:01 PM (Merged)
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DANIELFLOR5
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Need a diagram and how to change the serpentine belt to a 2005 Kia Rio
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:01 PM (Merged)
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SCYALATA
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im still having problems.. if i put the spring on and pull the pulley out of the way as far as i can, then try to put the timing belt on I cant get it over the tensioner pulley.
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:01 PM (Merged)
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HMAC300
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Hello,

Here is a guide to show you how to change all belts.

https://www.2carpros.com/diagrams/kia/rio/2005

Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know if you need anything else to get the problem fixed.

Cheers
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:01 PM (Merged)
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SATURNTECH9
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I posted how mitchell ondemand says to install the belt.
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:01 PM (Merged)
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RFMEADOR
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Need to replace broken alternator belt. Started to remove power steering belt first. Loosened tensioner completely but belt is still tight. Do I need to loosen the bolt behind the power steering pump pulley? When I get that belt off, will I have any steps on the alternator besides the tensioner? Thanks in advance.
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:01 PM (Merged)
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KASEKENNY
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That is correct. I attached the first attachment which shows the mounting bolt that you need to loosen and should be able to slip the belt off.

The next couple attachments show how to reinstall the new belt. Let me know if you have questions. Thanks
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:01 PM (Merged)
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RFMEADOR
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Thank you! Now, is there a secret on how to get the power steering bolt back in?
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:01 PM (Merged)
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KASEKENNY
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You will most likely need to use a pry bar and gently pry up on the pump to get it lined back up. The belt will stretch just a bit and that should allow you to get it back through.
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:01 PM (Merged)
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MESHELLE MAXWELL
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Okay, we got bolt off engine block replaced water pump, timing belt, pulley, etc., put it all back together and now it starts but sounds like it is only running on three cylinders or something is rough. What do I do now? it was not running rough like this before. Help please!
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:01 PM (Merged)
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KHLOW2008
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Recheck the timing belt installation. The timing mark could be off. Have the engine compression tested.

If engine had overheated due to a bad water pump in the first instance, you could have a blown head gasket.
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:01 PM (Merged)
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Hello MESHELLE MAXWELL,

If you decide to conduct the compression test yourself here is a link to an article from our site with written step by step instructions, with pictures and video to guide you:
https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-engine-compression


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Oct 16, 2020 at 12:01 PM (Merged)
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BRAT1
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how do i replace the alternator belt what do i have to do and can some one explain that to me please
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:01 PM (Merged)
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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On the 2001, do you have a seperate belt just for the alt? If so, you will need to loosten the mounting brackets on the alt. Once it is loose, there will either be an adjusting bolt (on some models) that can be tightened to adjust belt tension, or you will need to apply pressure to the alt by hand and tighten the bracket to keep it in place.

Let me know what you find.
Oct 16, 2020 at 12:01 PM (Merged)
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CACWILLIAMS11
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Hey guys I’m new to the group and y’all have helped out a lot.

My question : I changed the alternator, battery , and all 3 belts last year around this same time and earlier this week I was driving and had to pull over because the car was making a weird sound. Got out and saw something leaking , looked like water. Got it to the house and when I popped the hood I noticed 2 belts were messing , the A/C belt and power steering belt. The power steering wheel is hard to turn. I’m going to replace it but what do you think could have been the issue or still is the issue if I’m changing the belt for the 2nd time within a year?

2010 Kia Soul 2.0
Sep 5, 2021 at 5:34 PM
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Hi,

There are several different things that can cause the belts to come loose. However, I have a favor to ask. We try to keep the threads specific to one topic. We will be happy to help, but I need to ask if you could start a new thread.

Here is a link to go to. Simply copy and paste your new question and we will help the best we can. I will keep my eyes open for your post.

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/new

I hope you understand.

Take care,

Joe

Sep 5, 2021 at 8:22 PM