Barely warm heat

1995 CHEVROLET 1500
345,000 MILES • 4.3L • V6 • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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CANNON1349
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This truck had a complaint that the heat stopped getting warm. It barely gets lukewarm now. The water pump went out on it so we replaced the pump and the thermostat, and also the heater core. I let the car run with the radiator cap off until it just overflows and makes a mess, both hoses on the core are hot, but still no heat
Jul 13, 2019 at 4:05 AM
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Good morning,

The overflowing is not normal.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/head-gasket-blown-test

I would start with checking the head gasket. You may have compression leaking into the cooling system causing no heat. The air from this leak goes to the highest point which is the heater core. The pressure is what pushes out the coolant.

Roy
Jul 13, 2019 at 4:36 AM
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I disagree. If both heater hoses are hot, the blower motor should blow out hot air. I think the problem has to do with the blend and/or temperature doors under the dash. You could have a bad actuator or a vacuum hose, cable fell off the door.
Jul 13, 2019 at 4:50 AM
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There are no bubbles in the radiator, also the coolant doesn't move dramatically with each rotation of the engine, I was running it with the cap off and much like the tide at the beach, the coolant made its way up to the top of the radiator, overflowed, then went back down, and again made its way back up to overflow again. This was what I thought an "old school" way for the radiator to push air out of the system.

I have heard of the blend door motor or whatever going out, and also I heard there are 3 different kinds on this truck. One to move the door to switch fan direction, one for temp, and one for something else. The parts online don't seem to differentiate between the three.
Jul 13, 2019 at 1:46 PM
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Okay, no, that is not old school at all and it is not bleeding air.

You need to do a leak down test on the cylinders. Looks like you have a head gasket issue. It should never surge out of the top of the radiator. That is pressure, not air.

Roy
Jul 13, 2019 at 3:21 PM
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let me repeat. if both heater hoses are hot at the heater core, then the heater core is hot enough. the problem then with the no heat is under the dash. there could still be a problem with the overheating but there should still be heat.
Jul 14, 2019 at 2:51 AM
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Sorry. This heat problem did not occur until after the repair. Possibly a bad thermostat?
Aug 7, 2019 at 8:55 AM
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You could start there and see if it improves. When you remove the thermostat, fill the radiator until the coolant is full where the thermostat is located. Then install it. That will eliminate any issue of air. If it still bubbles up, then you are back to square one.

I know my colleague disagrees with my assessment but I would not eliminate it at all.

Roy
Aug 7, 2019 at 9:02 AM
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If both heater core hoses are hot, that means that the heater core has hot coolant in it, therefore it should blow out hot air. The problem is under the dash.
Aug 7, 2019 at 12:19 PM
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What's the procedure to get to that actuator behind the dash? I know there are three. I guess I'm after the temperature blend actuator, behind the ash tray. I'm stuck at what plastic pieces to remove.
Sep 10, 2019 at 8:03 PM
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The procedure below with some pictures.

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Remove or Disconnect
1. Negative battery cable.
2. Roll instrument panel forward.
3. Electrical connector.
4. Screws.
5. Actuator.

Adjust
A. Electrical connector to the actuator.
B. Turn the ignition key to the run position and let the actuator position itself.
C. Turn off the ignition key.
D. Remove the actuator from the electrical connector.

Install or Connect
1. Actuator.
2. Screws.
3. Electrical connectors.
4. Instrument panel compartment.
5. Negative battery cable.
^Check circuit operation.
Sep 11, 2019 at 3:20 AM
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That one in the picture looks like the floor mode actuator.
Sep 11, 2019 at 3:59 AM
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That is the temperature actuator listed in Alldata.

Roy
Sep 11, 2019 at 4:07 AM
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Is that attached to the heater core box?
Sep 11, 2019 at 4:15 AM
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Correct. It is attached to the blend door for heat and cool air.

Roy
Sep 11, 2019 at 4:25 AM
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How come everything I read it says behind the ash tray? Or is that just a general area that's misleading? Cause I have the dash apart now, lol
Sep 11, 2019 at 4:30 AM
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I think it's a general area. Remove it and move the door by hand and see if the temperature changes.

Roy
Sep 11, 2019 at 4:34 AM
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See the red rag? That's it. Removing the door for the heater core will do nothing but reveal the heater core. I don't know what it means to "roll back" the instrument cluster. Looks like the entire dash needs to move. I wish the instructions were more clear
Sep 14, 2019 at 3:37 PM
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What is that picture?

It says to release it and roll it forward.

You remove the actuator, not the case. Then move the door by hand from cold to hot.

Roy
Sep 16, 2019 at 3:53 AM
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That's shining a light behind the ash tray. What I did was remove the glove box, the panel around the glove box, and the panel around the ashtray and removed the ashtray. I could move the glove panel out enough to get an elbow extension to reach it and replace it. Heat works now.
Sep 16, 2019 at 4:46 AM
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Good.

Roy
Sep 16, 2019 at 4:51 AM
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Returning to this thread because I still have some coolant loss. But no obvious leaks.

Roy mentioned a possible head gasket issue. I attached here a bubbling video to describe what I wrote above. It will slowly rise until it just comes out of the radiator.
Apr 9, 2020 at 6:16 AM
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Yep, I see.

I would have the leak down test done to check the head gasket.

Roy
Apr 9, 2020 at 6:18 AM