Acura, 1.6EL, 1998 at 130 000km

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SARAHBN
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This is a model that was not sold in the U.S. so I hope you can still answer my question. I recently took my car in for a standard check-up at the dealership (it goes in regularily about twice a year) and was told that it needed:
1) Clutch fluid replacement
2) Fuel Injection System cleaning
3) Rear brake adjustment

After looking over my repair records I agreed to have them do these reapirs. But they also took it for the test drive and have diagnosed that it needs a bearing replacement in the transmission. They said they heard a noise that indicated this. They also recomended that I replace my clutch at the same time, if I haven't done this recently, as it would save some labour costs.

I had told them that I had been noticing it was hard to gear into 1st sometimes, even while in motion, but they said that it wasn't related to the bearing needing replacement.

My question is this. Does this sound legitimate and should I be able to hear the noise that they are refering too? Should I get a second oppinion?

Any advice you can give me would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Sarah
Nov 8, 2006 at 2:54 PM
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BRUCE HUNT
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Sarah, I wish I could somehow relate to everyone the right way to do things. For instance, I have owned Hondas for a number of years and I never replace the clutch fluid. The same fluid runs the brakes and clutch and though they are different systems with seperate fluid resevoirs, the need to replace is just a trick job. I would like to be able to educate owners to tell the dealers when to take a hike.

Now about your current problem. The bearing that they are hearing is in the tranny but I would bet that it is not the tranny itself but rather the throwout bearing. The bearing causes the clutch to engage when you push the clutch pedal. When it gets bad they get noisey and the worst gear to change is first. Maybe you have noticed that it is possible to shift a moving car through the gears without touching the clutch. I would not recommend doing it as a regular way of shifting but it is easy to do by letting off the accelerator and gently but firmly doing the shift.

Now I am going to suggest that the second opinion at a good shop but not a Honda dealersip is a fair step. Explain the problem and your belief it might be the throwout bearing. Have the clutch replaced as well. They are right about that but what they failed to tell you is that the clutch comes with the throwout bearing. My girls, I have three, know about cars and are not going to be taken to the cleaners by a mechanic as I have forced them to understand what it is they drive.

Good luck. This forum is for you to help you be a better car owner and to make sure that the dealerships and mechanics just do their job and don't remove anymore money from your pocket than is necessary.
Nov 10, 2006 at 2:49 AM
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SARAHBN
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Thanks Bruce, I should have asked more before having them do the work. I won't fall for that again. I am going to get another estimate and see what I can work out. If you read this again, one more question. I am leaving the country for four months in January and the car will be off the road for that time. Do you think I need to get this fixed right away, or could I wait untill I am back from my trip? I would only be driving to and from work in the city untill then.

Thanks again,
Sarah
Nov 10, 2006 at 3:18 PM
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BRUCE HUNT
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It could wait. Sadly the town driving is the most shifting. It shouldn't really get any worse and though I believe the throwout bearing is your problem it should be fine for a while yet. Have fun on your trip!

Bye the way, if you are planning to park the car somewhere, I would suggest that you disconnect the battery cable, positive, as they are drawn on by the security system if there is one, the clock and the radio, etc.
Nov 10, 2006 at 4:18 PM