Engine does not want to start?

2009 FORD BANTAM
300,000 MILES • 1.3L • 4 CYL • 2WD • MANUAL
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ZANENYS
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hi there I ford bantam rocam its swinging but doesn't want to start, swing quicker when pushing petrol like it wants to start its got spark and it gets fuel but still doesn't want to start. Sorry im from south Africa and only now see its in miles so its got about 125000 miles thank you
Sep 15, 2014 at 10:45 AM
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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If it is getting spark and fuel, it should start unless there is an issue with fuel pressure, weak spark, timing, low compression.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

When you turn the key to the on position without cranking the engine over can you hear the fuel pump run in the tank for 5 seconds?
Sep 15, 2014 at 6:43 PM
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ZANENYS
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Hi there,its got new rings,bearings and gaskets,and plugs,cam is positioned at 12,crank at 6,tdc,lot of spark,I have removed the fuel rail to look at amount of fuel when swinging and squirts good,could it maybe have anything to do with a knock sencor or something,when I swing her she swings faster and with slight pressure on petrol she swings faster like she wants to start
Sep 15, 2014 at 9:37 PM
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Will it start if you use starting fluid? Is the spark a hot blue snapping spark?
Sep 16, 2014 at 8:46 AM
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ZANENYS
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I haven't tried the fluid yet and the spark is sort of blue
I might think it a electrical problem cause picked up today that only my battery light on the dash does not come on but all the others do and when I switch the ignition off the lights still stay on although the key is turned off,also replaced the ignition backing section cause mine was not working like it should but still nothing,could it be the ecu
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:01 AM
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ZANENYS
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the company I bought the bakkie from said that the car just stopped driving and then I tried to start it but did the same as its doing now,so I thought it might be compression cause it was lower than it should be at first and then decided to overhaul the engine but problem remains,so another technician today said its sounds like ecu but don't understand how it could be that if it has spark and fuel
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:07 AM
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ZANENYS
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the dash lights also don't stay on all the time
after the 3rd attempt or so of swinging then everything works properly again
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:12 AM
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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That's the thing. If it is getting both fuel and spark, it should run. The only thing that could prevent it would be timing, low compression... When it doesn't start, try the starting fluid. If that makes it start, there is a fuel related issue. If it doesn't start with starting fluid, then it is ignition related.
Sep 16, 2014 at 5:48 PM
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SANDILE NGCOBO
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Hi Jacob and Nikolas, i have the almost the same problem as Zaneny, one of my friend sujested that the problem might be the timing because the car had a hard knock the front. the problem i dont understand what my friend means by suggesting timing and how to fix that timing as well.
May 29, 2016 at 1:38 AM
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Yesterday while driving saw my car overheating, I stopped and bridged the fan and let it run for about 40 minutes while the engine was off. then after 1 hour 30 minutes started the car and went home. This morning the car started fine and idled for about 5 minutes then shut off and now it cranks but won't start. (should it starts,it won't idle for 2 minutes)
Nov 11, 2019 at 12:47 PM (Merged)
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Hi:

If it overheated bad enough, there could be a head gasket issue. Do me a favor. Here is a link that explains how to check for a bad head gasket. I realize it ran okay at first, but damage may have been done and now the problem showed up.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/head-gasket-blown-test

Let me know what you find.

Joe
Nov 11, 2019 at 12:47 PM (Merged)
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Hi Joe,thanks for the response. though this morning tried starting it again and wouldn't start. then I took that bottom pipe that goes into the injector rail in the hood out and tried to start it,no petrol came out of that pipe.
Then I took out the petrol tank to take the pump out where after I plugged it directly on the battery and it made no sound and now am on my way back to the car with a new petrol pump.will let you know what happens.
Nov 11, 2019 at 12:47 PM (Merged)
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Got it right Joe,put that new petrol pump in and now it's one kick.thanks a lot to 2carpros admins and all the members, you all are an amazing team.
Nov 11, 2019 at 12:47 PM (Merged)
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS is one of your best! Use 2CarPros anytime, we are here to help. Please tell a friend.
Nov 11, 2019 at 12:47 PM (Merged)
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MJITA
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My Rocam Bakkie does not start, the light come on, but it does not swing.
ECU and Key all good, what could be the problem?
Nov 11, 2019 at 12:47 PM (Merged)
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Hello,

It sounds like you have a starter that has gone out which is common for these cars. Here is a guide that will show you how to test for power at the trigger wire on the starter solenoid and then what you are in for when replacing the starter if it is bad.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-a-starter-motor

Please run this test and get back to us so we can continue helping you.

Cheers, Ken

Nov 11, 2019 at 12:47 PM (Merged)
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MJITA
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Hi, thank you for your response, but, the link that you gave me sends me to the How to Change the starter tutorial and Not the Test for power at the trigger wire guide.

Am I reading it wrong?

themba
Nov 11, 2019 at 12:47 PM (Merged)
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The test is at the bottom of the guide.

Nov 11, 2019 at 12:47 PM (Merged)
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HLANGO81
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I bought a secondhand engine 1.6 and was using 1.3 for my rocam i installed the engine and wire everything fine and raplaced the cam sensor from the old engine to the 1.6, but it does not want to pick up when i start. What else must i do? please help.
Nov 11, 2019 at 12:47 PM (Merged)
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Hello,

Lets run the codes to see what the computer missing.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

Please run this test and get back to us so we can continue helping you.

Cheers, Ken
Nov 11, 2019 at 12:47 PM (Merged)
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2CP-ARCHIVES
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car dont start n the light by the clock stays on.
you cant even kick srtart it
Nov 11, 2019 at 12:47 PM (Merged)
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HMAC300
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check battery for condition and scan for codes. we hav eno info on these cars.
Nov 11, 2019 at 12:47 PM (Merged)
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CTASQUIER
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its a faulty ignition switch or ecu does not recieve proper voltage
Nov 11, 2019 at 12:47 PM (Merged)
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ARCHIE NARE
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Got a Rocam engine XLE. This morning driving my wife to work heard some funny sound when changing gears and stopped the car, turned the engine off and tested the gears the gears which all went well in. then I started the car again and put it into first gear but would not move, then switched it off, put it into first gear then started it with no foot on the clutch pedal and it starts and idle but did not jump. What could the problem be?
Aug 27, 2020 at 10:58 AM (Merged)
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PATENTED_REPAIR_PRO
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It sounds to me as though you have a clutch problem.
I would start by checking the clutch master cylinder fluid level if this has a hydraulic clutch and if it is low enough because of a leak, then there is not only air in the system but a leak that has to be fixed, then bleed the air out afterward.
Aug 27, 2020 at 10:58 AM (Merged)
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Thanks a lot for the reply. it is a hydraulic clutch system but not sure where the master cylinder is that I can check the level and maybe the leak (though I have not seen any). I will have to check on the pipes.
Aug 27, 2020 at 10:58 AM (Merged)
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The clutch master cylinder is normally under the hood up on the firewall near the brake master cylinder.
Aug 27, 2020 at 10:58 AM (Merged)
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Thanks again, though I will have to find a mechanic since I do not know that much about the engine nor what the hood is or the firewall is. I highly appreciate your responses they are worth a lot.
Aug 27, 2020 at 10:58 AM (Merged)
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okay, good luck.
the hood though is the thing you open up to see the engine, if of course the engine is in the front and the firewall is up by the windshield, the sheet metal that separates the engine area with the passenger compartment where you sit inside.
Aug 27, 2020 at 10:58 AM (Merged)
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Oh,thanks a lot. I get you and understand very well. i usually call the hood bonnet and should I find the the clutch master cylinder fluid level not on par, should i fill it up then bleed it?
Aug 27, 2020 at 10:58 AM (Merged)
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If it is low or empty, then you will have to find out what is leaking. fill it up, press the clutch pedal down a few times and look for a leak at the clutch master cylinder, the line going down to the clutch and the clutch slave cylinder.
Aug 27, 2020 at 10:58 AM (Merged)
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Got it towed home and the person I towed it with said it is a clutch plate that is damaged since it gets into gears but makes a slipping' mis-grinding' sound when one puts the foot on the clutch pedestal and one other mechanic looked at it this morning and said I should get a new clutch kit. can that also be part of the problem?
Aug 27, 2020 at 10:58 AM (Merged)
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PATENTED_REPAIR_PRO
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It could. I was starting from the beginning with checking the fluid.
Aug 27, 2020 at 10:58 AM (Merged)
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Your prompt responses are highly appreciated and hopefully all those who interact with you gets the same appreciation as I did. will do my best to get it done by Saturday and surely go let you know how it goes.
Aug 27, 2020 at 10:58 AM (Merged)
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Okay, thanks.
Aug 27, 2020 at 10:58 AM (Merged)
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Just to add my 2 cents. This is most definitely a clutch issue as it is pretty common for a failing clutch to make noise when driving and shifting gears and then not make any noise when shifting through the gears when not moving it makes no noise.

Here is a guide that will help with this as well:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/clutch-symptoms

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/inner-workings-of-a-car-clutch
Aug 27, 2020 at 3:45 PM