1998 Kia Injector Problem

1998 KIA SEPHIA
125,000 MILES • 4 CYL • 2WD • MANUAL
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Having a problem with my 98 Kia Sephia. It runs great and idles fine from cold start, but after 10 minutes or so of warming up, at idle it will suddenly die. It will start right back up, but will die within a few seconds at idle. Goes down the road great, but will die anytime the rpms drop to idle range. It throw codes 0265, 0271, 0268 and 0262, showing all four injectors short to battery voltage simultaneously. TPS checked and Computer has been replaced with no change in behavior.
Mar 30, 2011 at 9:37 PM
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It indicates a fault with the injectors or a short to the wire circuits between the injectors and PCM. Since all four came up at the same time, the more likely cause would be a loose or contaminated connection between engine harness and PCM.

After erasing the codes, does they come back as soon as the engine is warmed up?
Mar 30, 2011 at 10:31 PM
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Restarting the engine immediately after erasing them, it will run fine unless let to drop to idle and will die again, flashing the same codes.
Mar 30, 2011 at 10:46 PM
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Start by checking the continuity of wires between the injectors and PCM. Look out for signs of contaminations and corrosion.

Was anything done prior to this occurring?
Mar 30, 2011 at 11:26 PM
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We cleaned the relay contact in the plug in fusebox under the hood, they were getting a bit corroded and the fuel pump was intermittent.
Mar 31, 2011 at 12:26 AM
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Ok, I would suggest rechecking that area as well. Such wire couplers do cause such intermittent problems.
Mar 31, 2011 at 12:44 AM
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We replaced the entire relay box, including all connectors, relays and fuses. No change except now it idles very erratically. Have now tried it with 3 different working ECU modules. It seems better at first then right back to the same problem.
Jul 7, 2011 at 1:22 AM
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Are you still getting the same codes and is there any other additional codes?

Jul 7, 2011 at 11:17 AM
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Exact same codes as before, no new ones.
Jul 8, 2011 at 12:30 AM
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Here are diagnostics procedures for the codes. See if you can come up with anything.

DTC P0262: FUEL INJECTOR NO. 1 CIRCUIT HIGH

Check for:

a)Short to power in Brown/Black wire between fuel injector and Engine Control Module (ECM).

b) Fuel injector No. 1 malfunction.

Procedure

1. Turn ignition off. Disconnect fuel injector No. 1 connector and ECM 88-pin connector. Turn ignition on. Measure voltage between ground and ECM connector terminal No. 3 (Brown/Black wire). See Fig. 6 . If voltage exists, repair short to power in Brown/Black wire between fuel injector No. 1 and ECM connector terminal No. 3. If voltage does not exist, go to next step.

2. Measure resistance between fuel injector No. 1 connector terminals component side). Fuel injector resistance should be 14-15 ohms at 68°F(20°C). If resistance is not as specified, replace fuel injector. If resistance is as specified, wiggle wiring between fuel injector and ECM while performing step 1) again. If source of intermittent is located, repair wiring as necessary.

DTC P0265: FUEL INJECTOR NO. 2 CIRCUIT HIGH

Check for:

a) Short to power in Brown/Green wire between fuel injector and Engine Control Module (ECM).

b) Fuel injector No. 2 malfunction.


Procedure

1.Turn ignition off. Disconnect fuel injector No. 2 connector and ECM 88-pin connector. Turn ignition on. Measure voltage between ground and ECM connector terminal No. 32 (Brown/Green wire). See Fig. 6 . If voltage exists, repair short to power in Brown/Green wire between fuel injector No. 2 and ECM connector terminal No. 32. If voltage does not exist, go to next step.

2. Measure resistance between fuel injector No. 2 connector terminals (component side). Fuel injector resistance should be 14-15 ohms at 68°F
(20°C). If resistance is not as specified, replace fuel injector. If
resistance is as specified, wiggle wiring between fuel injector and ECM while performing step 1) again. If source of intermittent is located, repair wiring as necessary.


DTC P0268: FUEL INJECTOR NO. 3 CIRCUIT HIGH


Check for:

a) Short to power in Brown/Black wire between fuel injector and Engine Control Module (ECM).

b)Fuel injector No. 3 malfunction.


Procedure

1. Turn ignition off. Disconnect fuel injector No. 3 connector and ECM 88-pin connector. Turn ignition on. Measure voltage between ground and ECM connector terminal No. 31 (Brown/Black wire). See Fig. 6 . If voltage exists, repair short to power in Brown/Black wire between fuel injector No. 3 and ECM connector terminal No. 31. If voltage does not exist, go to next step.

2. Measure resistance between fuel injector No. 3 connector terminals (component side). Fuel injector resistance should be 14-15 ohms at 68°F (20°C). If resistance is not as specified, replace fuel injector. If resistance is as specified, wiggle wiring between fuel injector and ECM while performing step 1) again. If source of intermittent is located, repair wiring as necessary.



DTC P0271: FUEL INJECTOR NO. 4 CIRCUIT HIGH


Check for:

a) Short to power in Brown/Yellow wire between fuel injector and Engine Control Module (ECM).

b) Fuel injector No. 4 malfunction.


Procedure

1. Turn ignition off. Disconnect fuel injector No. 4 connector and ECM 88-pin connector. Turn ignition on. Measure voltage between ground and ECM connector terminal No. 4 (Brown/Yellow wire). See Fig. 6 . If voltage exists, repair short to power in Brown/Yellow wire between fuel injector No. 4 and ECM connector terminal No. 4. If voltage does not exist, go to next step.

2. Measure resistance between fuel injector No. 4 connector terminals (component side). Fuel injector resistance should be 14-15 ohms at 68°F (20°C). If resistance is not as specified, replace fuel injector. If resistance is as specified, wiggle wiring between fuel injector and ECM while performing step 1) again. If source of intermittent is located, repair wiring as necessary.


Jul 8, 2011 at 12:48 PM