car not circulating water?

Check the heater valve and cable adjustment. The part you mentioned about the heat lever bouncing back to the center indicates so.

That's what i adjusted to get the switch to go over all the way

So did you solve the problem?

The problem remains, no water circulation, doesn't over heat, heater doesn't work, and it bubbles out of the radiator into the reservoir

Are the cooling fans working?
Is the heater control valve adjusted correctly?

It doesn't have a cooling fan for the radiator, but alheater control valvesl fans work, not sure about

If it does not have any cooling fans for the radiator, how can the vehicle operate without overheating?

Good point, im not sure how its not over heating, but even without a cooling, it's still not over heating, this is the first time I've ever seen this

You better recheck. All vehicle needs cooling fans.

I know they need cooling fans, i worked in a shop for 2 years, but this still confuses me, it has a place for the fan, but doesn't have one, but it still doesn't over heat, it has no circulation, but still doesn't over heat, I've never seen this before, and im worried that i may damage something major without knowing it

just to add to this 1.check to see if the parts store has a fan motor or fan blade or fan relay for this car.with no fans as soon as u turn the a/c on the car is going to overheat.did they magnaflux the head for cracks? at this point u need to get the kit and ck. for hydro carbons in the coolant.

Well it is supposed to have a fan but yet doesn't have one, im not sure why it isn't over heating, but its not, i have already blead the system of all air, and cleaned the a/c / heater fan and made sure it works, fluids are getting to the heater core, and going through, but not much past, all i can think of is a bad hose, but im not 100% sure, and we did an ultrasound and dye penetrate tests, the head is fine

How long have you had the car?
How much driving have you made?
Is the heater valve opening fully for coolant to pass? When coolant is passing through are both heater hoses hot?
Is the aix-mix door working correctly?

Ive had it for about 2 years, put 50k miles on it, valve is open all the way, the hoses stay somewhat warm but not hot, and yes i do believe so

I can't believe you can run the vehicle for 50 k without cooling fans. Maybe the manufacturer would like to learn from you how to do it. You are going to be rich and famous.

Did you check the heater core for clogging? The heater hoses should be hot, at least as hot as the coolant running in engine.

It is circulating through the heater core, and the hoses are the same temp as the radiator hoses

In this case no heat means the air mix door is not working correctly.

Alright, but that wouldn't explain it not circulating

Why do you keep saying it is not recirculating?

Because if it was than i would be able to see it undernieth the radiator cap when the engine is warm, but instead it just forces the fluids out

when the thermostate opens it lets the water pump, pump the water through the system.i see a fan listed for your car at the parts sites.so u have a fan assembly.u need to replace the cap or test the rad. cap.your cooling sys. is not oper. properly.this is why your head gaskets blow.u need to install a fan assembly................

The coolant is being forced out because it is overheating. The system works at around water's boiling point and without the pressure cap on, it definitely would be forced out unless the cooling fans starts to work, which is a prblem because you do not have any cooling fans.

I know this, again i worked in a shop for 2 years, but what i don't understand is why it won't over heat (the car) even though it's not circulating

The coolant would be circulating when the cap is closed. The opened radiator cap would allow coolant to be forced out. that is simple logic.

What defies logic is why doesn't it overheat with no cooling fans. You mentioned working in a shop for 2 years, how much have you learnt about the principles of the cooling system?

Btw, fill the coolant to slightly below the radiator neck and most probably you would be able to see the coolant circulating.

do as khl said.also use a screw driver to hold the throttle oh about 2000 rpms.watch in the hole in a few mins. you going to see some circulation.i think its going to puck all the fluid out.because you have cracks in the heads.u never checked that did u!

I set the coolent to the correct level, i learned allot and ive been working , it's not circulating,on cars since i was 11, and it's still not circulating, i would be able to tell if it was, and i had the head ultrasounded, and dye penetrate tested, the head is fine! Even with the rpms up it just spits out water like normal, I've asked many people and nobody can answer why its doing this

DID THEY MAGNAFLUX TEST THESE HEADS FOR CRACKS?????????????IF U CANT KEEP IT RUNNING BECAUSE COMPRESSION IS LEAKING INTO THE COOLANT SYSTEM AND ITS BLOWING THE COOLANT OUT!!! USE A SNIFF KIT ON IT.ILL ALMOST GARRENTY U HAVE EXHAUST GASES IN YOUR COOLANT THEN U WILL HAVE YOUR ANSWER. WHEN I DID HEAD JOBS I WHEN TO THE MACHINE SHOP THROUGH MY HEADS ON THE COUNTER AND PICK UP A REBUILT SET.IS THIS WHAT U DID?

Try running a garden hose through the radiator cooling fins to see if coolant spits out.

he needs to do the sniff test then he will know the answer. im betting it will show exhaust gases.then u are going to have to pull the head and get a rebuilt one.yes the head was good but how many times has it been overheated???????????this is nonsense every car has a rad. and fans.i look your fans right up have u? im done khlow goog luck bro.

I work on aircraft for a living, magniflux isn't as good as ultrasound, however i will get the test done and let you know, and water did go through the cooling fins, oh and i put on a radiator cooling fan

do the sniff test on the coolant for your answer.

I fixed it, turns out it needed a sensor for the fan, and a back flush, heads fine, thanks for all your help!

If you don't have a cooling fan, what is the fan sensor going to do?

Read back to my earlier messages, i said i bought a fan for it, however i forgot to mention it wasn't working, so i checked it and the fan worked, so i replaced the sensor and now its working great!

Sorry, that was one of the last replies you made and it slipped my attention. I had been trying to get you to understand the problem but you keep going in the wrong direction.

We try to understand your problem to be sure of the cause and whatever information we knows comes from you. Wrong information means wrong or no answers. If you had not locked your mind on the problem onto something else, the problem would have been resolved long ago.

You busted your head and gaskets because of over heating due to the missing and non operational cooling fan in the first place and I am still surprised how you managed to get it to run for so long without it. The only answer I can think off is you either don't travel in high traffic areas with very short low speed driving or your travelling distances/time are short.

Anyway good to know you have the problem fixed.
Btw air craft engines do not use cooling fans if I am not mistaken, they don't fly in in traffic jams conditons.

Well i appreciate all your help, However im not sure why it didn't over heat without the fan, buy i never had problems with it until the water pump went out, i did blow the gasket, but the head is fine (surprisingly) and you're somewhat right about the airplanes, single engine planes do have a cooling fan, its called the propeller haha, but almost all single engine planes are air cooled, much like the older bugs