Wont Start AGAIN.. Different than last time though

1995 NISSAN QUEST
170,000 MILES • 6 CYL • FWD • AUTOMATIC
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TYAZZ
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Van wont Start, no crank.
Power to everything
Small Black wire at solenoid gets 12v w key turned to start
Battery good


Initally, the van wouldnt start because of a break in a wire going to the neutral safety switch. I took out the battery box, air box, and most air hoses to get to the wire. reconnected it, and the van cranked. Put everything back in, and now the van wont crank. Somewhere along the line, something went wrong.
Jan 3, 2012 at 8:39 PM
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FIXITMR
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make sure battery connections are good both ends of cable. if starter has ground and hot to main posts and small post is getting signal from key then it should work? try rapping on starter while key is at start?
Jan 4, 2012 at 2:44 AM
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Tried all that. Tried crossing the terminals of solenoid with screwdriver when key turned to start. Connections are all good. only thing i can think is maybe some rust or corrosion is weakening a connection or opened up a wire somewhere while wrenching around. Where can i find a schematic to start testing all parts of the circuit?
Jan 4, 2012 at 10:13 PM
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KHLOW2008
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If you have battery voltage to the starter and solenoid and it won't crank, you have a failed starter.
The brushes are worn resulting in no continuity in the circuit.
Jan 6, 2012 at 7:55 PM
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I took it out and had it tested at autozone. It passes the test. could it still be bad? But i noticed something today. when i shift to reverse or drive, the neutral safety switches buzzes for a second or two. could that be the problem? or a problem in general?
Jan 8, 2012 at 8:35 PM
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Yes it can but you tried bypassing the ignition and neutral switches and the starter did not crank, that is a different story.
Jan 9, 2012 at 3:29 PM
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TYAZZ
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So you're suggesting to replace the starter?
Jan 9, 2012 at 3:38 PM
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KHLOW2008
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Remove the end cap of the stater and check the carbon brushes. If they are almost worn, some knocking around would make the starter work but it is going to fail anytime.
Jan 9, 2012 at 5:38 PM
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TYAZZ
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So if the brushings are worn, replace it. And if they aren't?
Jan 9, 2012 at 5:43 PM
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If they are, you ned to reinstall the stater and retest again to confirm what is at fault, whether it is the wiring or switches.
Jan 9, 2012 at 5:47 PM
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It was the starter/solenoid. Never trust the test machine at autozone.
Jan 14, 2012 at 12:36 AM
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thanks for the reply.
Jan 14, 2012 at 7:20 AM
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It is not the test machine that is at fault. As I mentioned before, sometimes the starter would test good but it would fail as testing is without load and under normal temperature. On the vehice it is subjected to load and differences in temperature. Furthermore electrical components can work intermittently due to poor contacts and while installing, the solenoid can get twisted out of position if it is not in good condition.

That is the reason on vehicle testing have to be done correctly to get accurate results.

Anyway glad to know you have fixed the problem.

Have a nice day.
Jan 14, 2012 at 10:16 AM