Wont turn over

1989 CHEVROLET CAMARO
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BROM
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Okay. I recently purchased an 1989 RS Camaro, it has a 2.8 v6 engine and was running fine. However, yesterday morning it wouldn't crank up, much less turn over. So over the course of the last 2 days ive done research both online and in my Hanes Repair Manual, I've checked the starter, the battery, the battery cables, the fusible links, and the solenoid, all of which were fine, other than i needed to tighten a nut on the solenoid that held the fusible links and power cable to the solenoid, which then got the seat belt light, and the fuel pump up and running again. The only two other lights that illuminate are the emergency brake light and the service engine soon light. And no, the security light doesn't come on, nor does it flash on and off. The radio works, as well as the head lights. Im all out of ideas. Can you help me figure out what the issue is and how to best resolve it?
Jul 16, 2013 at 6:28 PM
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Is the problem that the starter won't engage? If so, have you checked to see if there is power to the smaller wire going to the starter when the key is in the start position? Have you checked the starter relay for power?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/starter-not-working-repair

Please run down this guide and report back.
Jul 16, 2013 at 6:56 PM
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BROM
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Now that you mention it, the starter wasnt engaging. I will check the wires and get back to you. Thank you :)
Jul 16, 2013 at 7:56 PM
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Let me know what you find.
Jul 17, 2013 at 6:17 PM
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I forgot to mention, when i turn the key, the starter wont turn over, it only turns over, when i put the two wire ends on the starter. And it's been raining the last few days so i haven't had a chance to check the wire and relay yet, but i plan to today if the weather holds out
Jul 20, 2013 at 8:25 AM
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Have you had a chance to work on it?
Aug 10, 2013 at 9:10 PM
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I took it to a mechanic, all he told me is that i wasn't getting electricity to one side of my crank fuse, so i put a push button in, until i can invest some time into figuring that out. In the mean time I'm trying to find out why I smell something burning if i push the gas pedal down too far, why my RPM's are so high, and why its not accelerating and shifting gears like it should. It has an automatic transmission.
Aug 13, 2013 at 4:14 PM
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Is the transmission slipping? Check the trans fluid and see if it is brown and has a burnt smell to it.
Aug 13, 2013 at 8:50 PM
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The person i bought it from recently had a new transmission put in, a checked the fluid the other day and it was purple and up to the correct amount. Today i was driving and when I mashed the gas, what ever the burning smell was must have finally given way because my RPM's shot up to 7000, and stayed there until i took my foot off the gas. Then the RPM's went back to their usual, which is still too high, for example i can be driving 55 and the RPM's can be any were from 4000 to 5500. But ever since it shot up to 7000 i can be driving along and it will go up to 6000 and stay there, until i take my foot off the gas.
Aug 14, 2013 at 2:23 PM
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Either the transmission isn't shifting up or it is slipping. Based on your description, it sounds like it is slipping.
Aug 14, 2013 at 8:16 PM
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1989 Chevy Camaro V8 Manual
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My dad has an 89 Camaro, he lost the keys so he replaced the ignition, well now it wont turn over by the keys but he can try to "hotwire" it on a switchboard, however it seems that the carburator is not getting gas. What could be the issue?
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The actuator rod may not by set right follow these steps: STEERING COLUMN SWITCHES -1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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IGNITION SWITCH


Removal
1.Steering column must be lowered (removed on some models) to gain access to ignition switch. Steering wheel removal is not required. Place lock cylinder in "OFF" position. 2.If lock cylinder has already been removed, pull actuator rod up until it stops. Back off actuator rod 2 detents. Remove switch retaining screw and stud. Lift switch from column. Detach actuator rod.
Installation
1.Place lock cylinder in "OFF" position. Place switch in "OFF" position by moving selector to top of switch and then backing off 2 detents. 2.On fixed columns, fit actuator rod into slider hole. Install switch onto steering column. Tighten attaching stud and screw. 3.On tilt or telescoping columns, install switch. Lightly push switch down on column to take up free play in actuator rod. Tighten attaching stud and screw. Connect wiring harness. Check operation of ignition switch

https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/62217_IGN_1.jpg
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had my battery die and jumped it and started right up. was able to start it later that night as well. went out for a bit then was about to go home and it wouldn't start so I jumoped it again and got nothing. even replaced the battery. the car wont turn over and I feel like I cant turn the key far enough to where it would start turning over. what can be wrong? it has a brand new battery, starter, alternator. its a rebuilt 305 and only has about 500 miles on the engine. I checked my fuses and everything checks out I also checked all my wires to the starter and battery. all the lights turn on and everything im just not hearing any engine sounds. and like I said all the parts are new in the car.
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Use a digital multimeter across the battery posts, take a reading, everything turned off. The generic spec for a full charge is around 12.6 volts. If the battery is down, take it off and get it charged. You can't do any testing if the battery is down.

Replacing parts may not fix it, could be a wiring issue somewhere? Forget the jumper cables at the moment, check that the battery has a full charge, first.

Don't use the alternator to charge a dead battery. Just my opinion.
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Its a brand new battery though I just bought it after I tried jumping the one I thought was bad
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Did you have the old battery tested to see if it was bad? Check the actual voltage reading at the starter solenoid, with key in the crank position. Have a helper turn the key to crank, while you check for voltage. The starter s terminal should be hot with key in the crank position. The starter bat terminal should be hot all the time.

You can use a testlight to check for voltage,but, a digital multimeter is a common tool like a screwdriver. The first step is about testing, not replacing parts.
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Just to add, any testing at the starter, make sure tranny is in park or neutral and the parking brake is set.
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1985 Chevy Camaro 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic 0

I have recently bought a 85 camaro berlinetta with a rebuilt engine and transmission. Problem is that it wont turn over. I have been told that with rebuilt engines that it takes a little while at first to crank, but its been tried a lot by the previous owner and by mysef as well (so i can have a better understanding of whats going on). but i have checked and cleaned and repaired some things in the past three weeks, but everytime i go to try and crank, it gets slower and slower and ends up clicking from the starter. I was told its a new starter, but dont know how new. Any suggestions what i need to check and or replace? Thanks.
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Have you had the battery checked? If it is turning slow and then clicks, it sounds bad. Most parts stores will check it for free.

As far as the engine being rebuilt, that has nothing to do with a hard start. It should fire right up for you.

Let me know what you find.

Joe
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You could jump the starter solenoid, to see if it will crank. There are safety issues. Safety is your responsibility because I can't see what your doing. You have to be positive the tranny is in park or neutral and a functional parking brake is set, block the wheels.

Used to hear all the time about farmers getting killed because they tried to jump the starter solenoid to start the tractor. They thought the tranny was in neutral and it wasn't, the tractor started and took off, that big back wheel caught them. You get the picture.
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i replaced the battery with a new one, and it did get rid of the slow start and clicking. But it still doesn't turn over.
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SHANA M
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Yeah I agree with JDL there. Check the neutral safety switch located on the shifter. Or if you have key that has the chip on it.....try another key. The chip wears out over time. Most 85s didnt have them but some do. If it does and you dont have another key. You need to bypass the VATs system with a resistor from radio shack. Cheap fix. If thats the case you could look up online how to do it or I could walk you through it.
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Is the engine getting spark and fuel?
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I tested everything it all checks out the only thing I haven't done is take apart tge ignition. Could that be it
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It is getting fuel. I know the spark plugs are in good condition, but how do i test whether or not im getting spark?
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I can't believe nothing showed up? I don't know what else to tell you? Have a good day.
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Here is a how to:

https://www.2carpros.com/how_to/how_to_test_an_ignition_system.htm
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I have an "84 Z28 Camaro. It has a 383 stroker motor, 5 speed manuel, 3.73 posi. I just purchased the car. Haven't had time to mess with it much. Motor has approx 5000miles on it. After engine has cooled down it will turn over and start rite up.
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IF IT DOES TURN OVER

JUST SORTA TRIES OR YOU HEAR IT WANTING TO TRY AFTER ITS AT OPERATING TEMP.

COULD BE THAT YOUR STARTER IS TOO CLOSE TO THE FLYWHEEL

THIS CAN BE EZily AND INEXPENSIVELY PROVEN OR DIS-PROVEN TO BE THE PROBLEM

OBTAIN A FEW "STARTER MOTOR SHIMS" FROM A PARTS STORE (USUALLY THIN ONES WILL WORK

MOST OF THEM YOU CAN INSTALL BY JUST LOOSENING THE 2 STARTER BOLTS SO THAT THE STARTER DROPS DOWN MAYBE AN EIGHTH OF AN INCH OR SO.

THEN SLIDE A SHIM IN AT AN ANGLE AND SORTA "STRADDLE" ONE BOLT WITH THE FORKED END, THEN ROTATE THE SHIM AROUND THE OTHER BOLT. TIGHTEN THE STARTER BOLTS BACK UP. NOW THE STARTER IS SPACED AWAY FROM THE FLYWHEEL SLIGHTLY. GIVE HIM A TRY!

SOMETIMES IT MAY REQUIRE A LITTLE MORE SHIMMING...JUST REMEMBER THEY ARE IN THERE, THE NEXT TIME YOU PULL THE STARTER.

THIS IS SEVERAL TYPES OF SHIMS----I'M REFERRING TO THE 2nd SET DOWN FOR $4.99

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Miscellaneous-Repair-Parts/Starter-Shim-Universal-Type/_/N-25l8?filterByKeyWord=CHEVROLET+STARTER+SHIMS&fromString=search

RESULTS?

THE MEDIC
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KASS C
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my car is an 86 camaro i just changed the starter today car still isnt starting head lights work and interyor light work but no dash lights starter does not engage starter does engages if i ground it out thinkin fuseble link but not sure where it is
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[quote:0ab39a51dd="kass c"]Electrical problem
1986 Chevy Camaro V8 Two Wheel Drive Automatic 272000 miles

my car is an 86 camaro i just changed the starter today car still isnt starting head lights work and interyor light work but no dash lights starter does not engage starter does engages if i ground it out thinkin fuseble link but not sure where it is[/quote:0ab39a51dd]
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when the car cranks over and attepts to start ,it makes a odd noise and thats all it does.like somethings stopping the engine to run! its a carborated motor also!
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First make sure that your battery is good and fully charged. Then make sure that your battery cables are clean and tight. Those are side terminal cables and you need to pull back the black and red rubber boots to make sure that little ring terminal at the end of the cable is not covered and green fuzzy stuff. Corrosion is a very common problem with these types of cables
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