how do you remove the ignition cylinder?

1987 FORD F-150
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DRAMP14
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Tilt steering, 4 speed manual, mfi, 5.0 - I lost the keys to the truck and then my moronic friend tried to jam a flat head screw driver in the ignition to start it and broke it so now i need a new one but now how do I remove the old one?
Jul 13, 2012 at 12:01 AM
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SATURNTECH9
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Does the cylinder turn?
Jul 13, 2012 at 12:04 AM
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DRAMP14
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No its stuck in the lock position
Jul 13, 2012 at 12:06 AM
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SATURNTECH9
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I posted how to replace the igniton cylinder.
Jul 13, 2012 at 12:22 AM
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DRAMP14
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How stiff is that thing suppose to be? I just don't wanna wreck nothing.
Jul 13, 2012 at 1:32 AM
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What thing are we talking about?
Jul 13, 2012 at 1:50 AM
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DRAMP14
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The lock retainer pin
Jul 13, 2012 at 2:51 AM
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SATURNTECH9
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With the key in the run position it should just push in.
Jul 13, 2012 at 2:59 AM
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CJ MEDEVAC
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saturntech9

I DON'T THINK HE CAN INSERT KEY AND TURN IT TO "ON".....IN ORDER TO PUSH THE RETAINER PIN

THINK ANYTHING IN THIS ANSWER MIGHT AID HIM?

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/2001-saab-9-5-key-won-t-turn-ignition

I'LL LET YOU DECIDE IF THIS IS A GOOD IDEA ON THIS ONE........YOU KNOW "CARS" BETTER THAN ME.

THE MEDIC

Jul 13, 2012 at 3:07 AM
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SATURNTECH9
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I thought he read the part in the directions about having to turn the key the run position to remove it.I know he couldnt turn especially after hammer a screwdriver in the cylinder.Your going to have to drill the cylinder to get it to turn.Drill out the top of key hole and bottom to remove all the tumblars.Dont break a bit in the cylinder or you will have to get the piece out and get another bit and keep drillin.
Jul 13, 2012 at 4:02 AM
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CJ MEDEVAC
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I HAVEN'T DRILLED ONE IN A WHILE--AND YOU KNOW I WILL TAKE PICS WHEN I DO!

MINE'S GETTING A LITTLE WORN AND THE KEYS WILL JUST SNATCH OUT--THE CYLINDER WILL TURN W/O KEYS IN IT....UNLESS YOU DO SOME JIGGLING TO LOCK THE WHEEL

I HATE THE "DEGREES" OF UNCOMFORTABLE WRIST TURNAGE ANYWAY---SOON I WILL GET RID OF THE CYLINDER AND PLUG THE HOLE!

MY PLAN IS TO INSTALL 4 TOGGLE SWITCHES

1) HIDDEN MASTER ON/OFF...UNDER THE DASH

2) ON DASH--IGNITION W/ THE RED "FLIP SAFETY COVER" (ON/OFF)

3) ON DASH--ACCESSORIES--"FLIP SAFETY COVER" (ON/OFF)

4) ON DASH--"S" (CRANK--TO THE SOLENOID)---THIS WILL BE A MOMENTARY CONTACT TOGGLE W/ NO SAFETY COVER

YES, I WILL DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING I GET PICS OF!

ANYWAY.....SORTA BORED, SO I MADE A PIC/DIAGRAM OF DRILLING OUT THE CYLINDER.....USED A PIC OF THE F-150 CYLINDER

THE MEDIC
Jul 13, 2012 at 6:15 AM
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SATURNTECH9
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Call me simple but i would rather just use a key to start my car lol.Why dont you just install a voice reconigition software ignition so you can have a real knight rider jeep lol.They have a finger print starter also for you.Would be nicer then battle star galactica style viper launch switch squence they used to launch there fighters off the armada ship lol.
Jul 13, 2012 at 6:25 AM
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CJ MEDEVAC
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THANKFULLY, I CAN JUMP IN "WILLY" AND MAKE A GETAWAY--"WILLY" LIVES IN THE GARAGE

AS I POINTED TO MINE IN THE PARKING LOT, I CAME BACK WITH, "I LOOK REALLY GOOD IN MINE!......'COURSE, I LOOK GOOD IN ANY VEHICLE I'M IN!!!"

THE ATMOSPHERE WAS JUST RIGHT AND I BROUGHT THE HOUSE DOWN!

DrAMP14.......WE DO TRY TO HELP, WE LIKE HAVING A GOOD TIME TOO!

KEEP US POSTED ON YOUR PROGRESS/ OR IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS....I DID SEE THAT YOUR PART WAS LESS THAN $10 AT ADVANCE AUTO

THE MEDIC
Jul 13, 2012 at 6:42 AM
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CJ MEDEVAC
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OH YEAH!!!

I FORGOT TO MENTION....WHEN YOU PULL OUT THE OLD CYLINDER THE PART BEHIND IT, INSIDE THE COLUMN (WHICH MOVES WHEN THE CYLINDER TURNS) IS STILL IN THE "OFF OR LOCK" POSITION

THIS IS WHAT "CROOKS" TURN WITH A SCREWDRIVER TO CRANK THE CAR WHEN THEY "PUNCH" A CYLINDER

YOU NEED TO GENTLY (WITHOUT DAMAGE) TURN IT WITH A SCREWDRIVER UNTIL IT IS IN THE "ON" POSITION-----THIS WILL ALLOW THE NEW CYLINDER TO DROP RIGHT IN AND THE RETAINING PIN/TAB TO POP INTO IT'S HOLE

IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE "TWEAKING" TO GET IT TO FALL IN AND BE FLUSH AS BEFORE----DO NOT FORCE OR BEAT ON IT!

THE MEDIC
Jul 13, 2012 at 2:59 PM
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DRAMP14
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okay so i did the drilling and it still isn't turning, looks like im gonna have to do this the hard way, can anybody provide a step by step possibly so i can get this done, i need the truck fixed so i can move into my new house ha. I watched a how-to video that explained everything from taking the horn off and the steering wheel and getting all the way to the ignition cylinder but this guy had a key and his just wouldnt turn forward so he drilled out the pin and it turned and came out.
Aug 11, 2012 at 4:20 PM
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SATURNTECH9
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Have you tried drilling out the retaining pin your supposed to push in to releqse the cylinder?
Aug 11, 2012 at 8:34 PM
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DRAMP14
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no i haven't, i suppose that could be done without tearing it all apart but wont i still have to turn it to remove it?
Aug 11, 2012 at 8:41 PM
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SATURNTECH9
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Turning it allows you push the pin if you were able to turn it the pin would push and there would be nothing to take apart to remove the cylinder.
Aug 11, 2012 at 8:49 PM