77 GMC won't start

1977 GMC C3500
10,000 MILES • V8 • 4WD • AUTOMATIC
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DRRLUMBERJACK
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77 GMC won't start. Getting fuel but no spark. Replaced coil and checked ignition lead - still no start or spark.
Apr 11, 2011 at 7:21 PM
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CARADIODOC
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Two common suspects are the module bolted in the distributor, and the rotor. If you pull off a spark plug wire to check for spark and you hold it far enough away from metal, and there is spark, it WILL find its way to ground. Once it can't jump that far from the plug wire it will go through the middle of the rotor to the distributor shaft. That is called "punch through" and will leave a trail of carbon behind. That carbon is conductive, and from then on all spark voltage will get shorted to ground through the rotor.

If I understand correctly, some auto parts stores can test the module for you. If you replace it, be sure to use the heat sink grease that comes with it. That will prevent a repeat failure.

Another common problem is an open pickup coil around the shaft of the distributor. It has two wires, (I think they're white and green, but I might be wrong). Use an ohm meter to test it for continuity. They break from the repeated bending when the vacuum advance turns that coil.
Apr 11, 2011 at 7:34 PM
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JDL
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Do you have primary voltage at the coil, with key on, pink wire?
Apr 11, 2011 at 7:35 PM
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DRRLUMBERJACK
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Yes, I think so.
Apr 11, 2011 at 7:39 PM
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JDL
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I didn't see caradiodoc before I posted. When you say ,(yes I think so), I don't know who you are talking to? You use a testlite to check primary voltage at the coil, key on.
Apr 11, 2011 at 7:53 PM
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DRRLUMBERJACK
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I used a volt meter and it showed a change in voltage when the ignition was turned on.
Apr 11, 2011 at 8:03 PM
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JDL
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There shouldn't be any voltage at the coil with key off, What is the voltage reading, coil positive? Does the battery have a full charge?
Apr 11, 2011 at 8:10 PM
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DRRLUMBERJACK
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It has voltage with the key on, not off. Battery is now not charged from all the attempted starting.
Apr 11, 2011 at 8:12 PM
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JDL
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Yeah, you need to get the battery charged. You can't test with a down battery.

I agree with what caradiodoc's post.
Apr 11, 2011 at 8:18 PM
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DRRLUMBERJACK
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Thanks, I'll give it a try.
Apr 11, 2011 at 8:20 PM
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DRRLUMBERJACK
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It was the module. Purs like a kitten now. A very old ugly 1977 kitten, but purring none-the-less. Thank you!
Apr 12, 2011 at 1:35 PM
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JDL
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Thank caradiodoc, I didn't do much. Glad you got it going.
Apr 12, 2011 at 1:57 PM
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CARADIODOC
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:) They're all easy when you sit real close to the dart board!
Apr 12, 2011 at 7:29 PM
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JDL
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LOL
Apr 12, 2011 at 7:37 PM
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DRRLUMBERJACK
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I'll bookmark your page. You were both helpful.
Apr 12, 2011 at 8:42 PM
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JDL
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Have a good day.
Apr 24, 2011 at 7:18 PM